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I have a feeling the Packers are going to lose their final 5 games of the season, playoffs included.

How do the Ravens know Willis "inside and out"??

Some Packers posters grumbling (half jokingly, maybe) that the team should trade Love for the picks spent on Parsons and sign Willis.

Maybe. (regarding Tryps comment about Love). I just think there's enough tape on Willis. He's be really, really good in his limited time with the Packers. How he adjusts to defenses preparing specifically for him is yet to be determined.

That's a stretch, as I think by many/most metrics, Love is one of the top QBs in the NFL. Willis is definitely a different passer. Has a really good arm and legs. Love is not very athletic out of the pocket. He lumbers. But the passing stats are really good/great. Willis is definitely gonna get paid, most likely by a bottom feeder. Or maybe a team like the Colts. Or maybe the Chiefs overspend for 1 season.

But the run defense is A$$

His very own "Ides of March"?

I believe Love is still in concussion protocol which rules him out for the game, and not so much the Packers are content with the #7 seed. Guess we'll find out based on who else does/doesn't play tonight.

I mentioned this because I didn't hear the complete context of the playcalling stat before and after Campbell took over. I saw the graphic though.

I know who the coach of the Bears is, and always have. Silly you're pushing that. It was a (self admitted) typo. I watched the game, but not as intently as I often do as it was Christmas. What things do I say, by my own admission, do I not know about. You're really parsing phrases. You call the Lions offense "mediocre" - explain that. You think points scored and yards/game are the most generalized? Like 3rd and 4th down success is some gold standard metric. They are one of the better offenses in the league all season. For whatever reason, you seem to think I'm being critical of Ben Johnson. Not certain why you feel that way other than I'm a Packers fan.

No, I'm not taking one game away from their season results. Their offense is good, very IMO. The points and offensive yardage prove that. I mentioned the low score yesterday as it related to my initial post showing they were averagong 30+/game. After yesterday, they drop under 30. And the Lions offense is far from "mediocre". Seriously?? What stat shows they're mediocre??? Six TOs in a single game is "fluky" in that they only had 8 in their previous 15 games. If you can't see that, I'm not certain there's much more to discuss in that regard.

I am well aware that Ben Johnson is the HC of the Bears, and the former OC of the Lions (despite my typo above). Some of you seem to think my initial post was some sort of attack against Ben Johnson and/or his value to the Lions. It's not. Of course there will be an impact losing the OC (and DC). I just don't think the drop-off on offense this year has been that significant. They are scoring and moving the ball at basically the same/similar pace as last year, You're suggesting points scored is the "most generalized stats"??? Seriously?? That's the #1 objective of any offense. But somehow 3rd down and 4th down success rates are more important??? That just doesn't make sense to me. I was only partially watching the game yesterday, but I thought they showed a stat that DC let the OC call plays for the first 9 games. He then took over for the next 6 (not counting yesterday and yards/game increased about 50 yards/game to just under 400/game. That's a really good offense before and after DC took over play calling. Regarding yesterday's game coaching, I'm not aware of any obvious coaching blunders the Lions made. But I wasn't watching closely. But I'm not certain he was "outcoached". His players turned the ball over SIX times. Jersey points out that it is the fault of undisciplined coaching. I disagree. But if TOs are a result of poor coaching, then I guess the Lions have excellent coaching up until yesterday, because they turned the ball over only 8 times prior to this season. I'm no apologist for the Lions or Dan Campbell. I was merely pointing out that they have a very good offense, still one of the best in the league. As far as their record, there can be plenty of factors in a 17-game season that swing a team from 15-2 to 8-8. The Vikings won, I believe, won 8 games last year by 6 points or less. A few things go differently and they're not 14-3.

What exactly am I "checking", other than my "sh!t"?? And my overarching point remains that the Lions problems this season are not their "drop" in offense, which is mostly negligent. Nor was my point some knock against Brad Johnson (despite some bizarre, baseless comment that I "still mad BJ beat Mark LaFleur).

The Lions were averaging 30 points a game until yesterday's 6 TO, 10-point game. And now they're only averaging 29 points a game. Hardly a dropoff. Their offense is not the problem. And that's not a knock against Brad Johnson.

That’s an odd retort.

The had 8 turnovers for the season prior to yesterday’s game.

The Lions completely sh!t the bed today, and it wasn’t because of Dan Campbell’s play-calling. They only gave up 161 yards of offense but turned the ball over SIX times. That ain’t play-calling, that’s fundamentals. As far as the play-calling for the season, I think the Lions picked up right where they left off from last season. 1st in points scored, 3rd in total yards, 3rd in passing, and 12th in rushing. Doesn’t seem like any drop off from Brad (edit-) Ben Johnson.

Link Judon’s 2025 Performance Has Been Brutal If you want the short version: Judon is not even close to the player he used to be. If you want the long version… buckle up: Overall PFF Grade: 43.3 (112th out of 112 EDs) Dead last. As in, literally the worst-graded edge defender in the NFL. Pass Rush Grade: 47.7 (111th out of 112 EDs) This one hurts. Judon was once known for terrorizing quarterbacks. Now? He might as well send them a polite holiday card instead. Run Defense Grade: 54.6 (90th out of 112 EDs) Even against the run, where aging pass rushers sometimes still contribute, Judon struggled badly. Total Pressures: 10 (105th out of 112 EDs) In 13 games. TEN. Aidan Hutchinson had that many by breakfast in September. Sacks: 0 (110th out of 112 EDs) That’s right. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Stops: 5 (110th out of 112 EDs) A “stop” means a play that actually helps the defense. Judon made five of them… all year.

“Mediocre white guys”??

I know there's much hatred toward him by Bears fans, but he's 12th in QBR and 15th in TDs. Not bad for an aged QB.

Jordon Love is the highest rated QB in the NFL against the blitz. The Broncos hardly blitzed but were able to get pressure with their front four in the second half. Love struggled (yesterday) with zone D.

The best O-lineman (Zach Tom) went out after 25 snaps. Kinnard played okay, but he's not even close to Tom's ability as Tom is one of the league's best. So this certainly played into it. But, yes, the Broncos were able to generate pressure with 4 defenders. This allowed the Broncos to play zone for 75% of the snaps. And the Packers struggled yesterday with zone in the second half. Watson going out certainly didn't help.

Was taken to local hospital for chest injury, but was on flight home with team. RT Zach Tom went out with knee injury in 2Q and did not return. SS Evan Williams left game in 2nd half with knee injury and did not return. And of course, Parsons is probably done for the season. Costly loss in the standings, and for the roster.

People have problems with spelling and/or saying "Sauce"?

Pressures (and sacks) are EXACTLY why you pay DEs big money. Pressures have huge impacts on plays success rate and outcome. It seems by your statement/logic, if a DE doesn't get a sack or make a tackle (or hold his edge), then he wasn't doing what he's paid to do. As far as your "rushing up field leaving his gap open", I just don't think there's merit to this statement. The Bears were able to rush between the Tackles. I don't recall many, if any, designed runs outside the Tackle to Parsons' side that were successful. Now, Gary Rashan OTOH.......