Not sticking up for Dusty at all, but the scenario you just suggested is one where Mike Maddux may leave his pitcher in. He was the pitching coach for Nolan Ryan's team who was very open about ignoring pitch counts. Now would Maddux have let Prior stay out there during that inning without so much as a mound visit? I doubt it. Just saying, Maddux isn't going to make that decision based on pitch count. As someone posted, they were very good about not abusing pitchers though. So while they build up arm strength thru conditioning, Maddux isn't likely to have guys throwing 130+ pitches all the time. Yeah, Dusty had Prior throwing 120+ with regularity as a kid throwing more innings than he ever had before (not to mention after he had a collision with Marcus Giles where he landed on his shoulder). CJ Wilson went over 120 twice this year. Prior went over 130 three times in September alone, and again in his first postseason start. The big three averaged 113, 111 and 107 pitches per start in 2003 (Prior was the most), while CJ averaged 105 this year and the next two highest were at 100. Don't mistake coaches willing to build up arm strength with what Dusty did to his pitchers. He abused the crap out of them and should never be excused for his ignorance. http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/pitching/_/name/tex/seasontype/2/cat/pitchesPerStart/order/true/texas-rangers http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/pitching/_/name/chc/year/2003/seasontype/2/cat/pitchesPerStart/order/true/chicago-cubs http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/4936/year/2003/mark-prior Thanks Dusty, you despicable human being. I hate how pretty much every manager ever gets run out of every town, because it obscures how truly awful Dusty Baker was. I am neutral on Quade, thought we overpaid for Piniella, didn't care for Baylor and thought Riggleman was probably a bit underrated. But Dusty Baker actively shredded the Cubs's arms that season through willful, stubborn ignorance. The young pitchers on that staff threw workloads that no other pitcher in baseball matched, and they did it in games where the Cubs had large leads and it was completely unnecessary. Dusty Baker can die in a fire.