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I am really hoping Jed has a plan B and contacts Boras with an offer for either Bellinger or even Chapman. But tells him this is the offer. If that gets them to the table to make something work, great. But if not and they need to move to plan B. Whether it is a trade we don’t expect, or a signing of someone like JD Martinez and then a Morel trade for a 3rd baseman or a pitcher, or a huge prospect trade to upgrade a position of need, all would be fine with me. It is time to make the offer and proceed however they have to depending on if they get someone signed or not.
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Whoever is at 3rd isn’t worse than who was there. Same cast of characters. And Busch has to be better than Mancini, Hosmer, Wisdom. Bellinger was the only one good there. And he only started 44 games there. And in center if PCA wins the job he is an upgrade over whoever was in center last year. If it is Tauchman, he is a downgrade of Bellinger the 80 games Bellinger started there. Overall, I don’t see it as a worse defense.
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Why would defense be worse?
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Thr most glaring thing to me is PECOTA suggesting the Cardinals will allow fewer runs. I don’t see that at all.
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While I think PECOTA might be a little off in win totals, I can see the Cardinals listed slightly about the Cubs. Not 5 wins better however. But more than that, I don’t see the Cardinals giving up less runs than the Cubs. If the Cardinals are going to be better than the Cubs it is because they will outscore them, not limit runs against, IMO.
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Bring Addison Russell back too!
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I think the point of the post suggesting they have so many prospects they will start making some trades is to trade the prospects for proven talent. Not trade the proven talent on the team to open up spots for the prospects. Which is what you are implying. The prospects are assets right now. If they wait, sure one might show he deserves to be in the majors and actually become a quality major leaguer. But more will falter and fall off. Now is the time to trade Alcantara, Triantos, Shaw, Cassie, Murray, Ballasteros, Canario, Mervis, and several other prospects for major league talent. Not all of them, but they should package a couple with maybe some lesser known guys to bring in a young”ish” major league talent with 3 or so years of control left. I think that is what the original story about them having so many prospects was alluding to. Now is the time to use those assets to help the 24’ team as well as the team the next several years.
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For 24’ and maybe even 25’ that works well. But I don’t think that idea ages very well after that. I guess if they could get each on a 4 year deal that wouldn’t be bad. But I don’t think they can. I also don’t think they can fit both in and stay under the $257M line for LT purposes. And I highly doubt they go over that line.
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But it isn’t their decision to make. That is the point. Whatever drives the player to a team is his business. Money, want to be on a good team, want to play in a certain city or region of the county. It is the players choice and no one should be critical of whatever is most important to player. Not even the MLBPA.
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I am not talking specifically about Bellinger. I am talking in more general terms. Not all players take the most money regardless of who is offering it. That is all I am saying. And whatever they do, no one should criticize them for their decision. Some will take the most money, regardless of the team or the city and some will be more concerned about them living arrangement or the teams ability to compete. Any reason is fine, IMO.
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I don’t think it is a bad thing. But I also don’t think everyone has to sign for the most money. At this level, I think where you are most happy counts more. Now maybe your priority to be happy is to make the most money. Again, that is fine. However if a place you really want to play is offering something that over 5 or more years pays you 3% or 5% less than another place that you are not sure you want to go, I believe there are guys who will go elsewhere for less. Hell, I took a job paying less because it allowed me to work from home versus a job where I had to go into an office. I make a decision based on comfort of life over the highest earnings. And I definitely don’t have the revenues these guys have. I have to think the highly paid player making $200M or more in their career isn’t going to miss $5M to $10M by choosing to play were he is happiest. As I said, nothing wrong with chasing the most money. I just don’t think everyone does.
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Not a fan of trading Morel without a bat coming back. But if they sign Bellinger and JD Martinez, I guess that would be work. I really doubt Luzardo.
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Do we know Chicago means the Cubs? Couldn’t it be the white Sox, if it is even true?
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LOL. I just looked up Manny Machado. What is being described as PCA’s prime years is basically Machado’s career numbers, with a little more slug. Really hope he is right, but that’s a tall order, even for prime years.
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TBF, I said 830 was a bit much. Guess he could do 800 a few times.
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500 slug? I highly doubt that he ever puts that slug up in an entire season in the majors. Also doubt he ever reached OPS of 830. But, damn, I hope you are right.
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Ok, thanks for the explanation. I feel a little better about his defense. Hopefully he grades out well again next year.
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I have a question on Madrigal’s defensive rating. Is he rated on balls he gets to based on his zone of coverage at 3rd base or is the rating based on all third baseman’s expected zone? In other words if a 3rd baseman plays a little further back he has more area and range. So he would be expected to get to more balls. It is clear Madrigal gets to a lot of balls in his zone. But because he plays in closer, his zone is smaller. Is this accounted for when deeming Madrigal as a plus defender at 3rd base. I would be curious to know how many doubles went down the line or singles that went just over his head that other third baseman may have gotten to. Also curious as to if this is accounted for in his ranking?
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I really hope they do better than him. First, I want a better bat there. Second, do we know he is going to be a good third baseman moving forward. Defensive stats fluctuate from year to year. What happens if he grades out to average or a little less than average? They you have a weak hitting third baseman who isn’t a great fielder either.
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Not really iinterested in any of those guys.
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If you are suggesting Morel is a 5 win player, that may be a bit much. That said, I don’t want to trade him either and I don’t see him as trade bait. If he hits they will figure something out for him to play 125+ games a year, somewhere.! Hard to part with a guy who has 40 HR potential on a team without a true power hitter.
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I had the same question. Honestly I have no idea what some people see with Alzolay that make them think the Cubs have better options.
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Saw them at Poplar Creek in 78’. Was next to Kevin Cronin’s mom in the front row.
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Good point on the time it might take Morel to get off a throw. That is a factor as well. But on the official scorer not giving an eeeor on an errand throw., if the throw is wild and the guy gets second base due to the throw it is going to be a hit and an error. With Madrigal it would be just a double. Hey, just trying to find a spot for Morel so they can sign someone like JD Martinez 😬
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I only mentioned it because there was an article on BN comparing Madrigal to Chapman. It mentioned Chapman plays much deeper so he gets to more balls. So his zone rating incorporates a larger area. I would assume Morel’s would as well.
