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Supposed to be a west coast team. Pressley said he doesn’t want to go east or west. So should be Chicago. 🤷
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David Robertson talking to Cubs about returning
Rcal10 replied to Southpaw19's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Considering the Cubs don’t have either Pressley or Robertson right now, we very well may be talking about a scenerio that never takes place. Let’s hope we get at least one of them today. The Pressley report may have been premature. And just because the Cubs are supposed to be talking to Robertson doesn’t mean that happens either. We have been down this road this off season, all too often. -
David Robertson talking to Cubs about returning
Rcal10 replied to Southpaw19's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I think it is Pressley OR Robertson, not AND. I don’t see them spending $20M to $25M on 2 pen arms. But if they did I am not sure how much they have to spend for a bench bat. -
I think if it was Canario the Cubs would then sign a better outfield bench bat. I have no issues with Canario and Thompson being gone. And there are a few more I am not worried about too. I think with Thielbar and Little, Rob Z can go too.
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Who do you worry about giving up? They aren’t going to give up any assets. A guy they would dfa to add another player to the 40 man roster is, by definition, not an asset. The fact they would dfa him suggests this. I agree they shouldn’t give much up for one year of Pressley at $14M. Pretty sure they aren’t. And if they have to sweeten the deal by adding a second year they will give up even less, or the Astros will pitch in some. I have to think Jed and the FO knew Pressley would want some kind of sweetener. Most guys who have a NTC use that as leverage. If both teams have a deal in place, unless Pressley absolutely does not want to come to Chicago, it will be worked out.
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Him not waiving the NTC.
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At this point, no. But maybe the Astros kick in totaling $5M for the two years? Something like that. And if not, still get the deal done.
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This would suck.
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Another reliever after Pressley? I think they are done with pen arms, but who knows🤷. But they might and should add another bat or two. So with Pressley, Berti and at least one more addition, I think guys like Thompson and Canario are definitely dfa candidates.
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I think I would rather the Cubs take the entire contract and give little up. Not like they are using that money anyway. Give them back Canario or Thompson. Someone they have to take off the 40 man for Pressley, Berti or any other late addition they plan on acquiring. Even with the $14M they still have another $16M to $18M for 2 bench bats.
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This would be good use of Canario IF the Cubs then sign a decent right handed bat for the bench.
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What is considered value, though? If they got Thompson or Canario is that value? Each is a potential dfa from the Cubs.
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Looks like part one is being completed. Sure hope they listen to step 2 and 3.
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Agreed. Time for the Cubs to get into this sort of thing. I am not a huge fan of Flaherty, BUT if they signed him to a 3 year deal at $72M while deferring $55M of it and the contract only counted as $13M to $15M a year for payroll purposes, I would be all for him. This is just an example and I don’t know what the consequences to the team payroll would actually be. Same with Bregman. Cubs need to get creative. Also work on an extension with Tucker with huge deferrals. I don’t know how it shakes out for payroll purposes yearly, but, if you can’t beat them, join them.
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If the Cubs plan on getting close to the LT line(within $7M or so) I think they might end up with Pressley as the closer. He has a no trade clause but I saw he approved the Cubs as a team he would agree to be traded to. I think that trade would be strictly a salary dump by the Astros. He is making $14M. Maybe the Cubs trade them Canario. If the Cubs take it all on they would still have around $15M-$17M to use and still be well below the LT line. They can probably add guys like Grichek and Moncada to the bench, if they wanted. The problem is, I am just not convinced any longer that they plan on getting close to that line.
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I’m fine with Grichik. But what is his cost? And wouldn’t he rather be in a team he sees more starts? He would be a great bench bat.
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Well thought out. I don’t agree with all of it, but I appreciate you took the time to answer “why not Bader. “ And if he cost $12M and he wants and expects a full time job, I absolutely agree with you that he has no place on the Cubs. But, IMO if they believe Canario isn’t the answer as a back up they shouldn’t carry him just because he is out of options. If they believe he can hit and play the outfield and give PCA a day off I am fine with him being the back up. I just don’t want the Cubs to pass on a bench bat they feel is a better addition to the team than Canario just because Canario is out of options. Maybe Bader doesn’t work(probably doesn’t if he can get the money you suggest), but there is still Cahnu, Grichik and probably a few guys they can trade for. None would play center. But I think in that scenario they would move Tucker to center and probably play Suzuki and the bench guy they signed at DH and RF.
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I don’t mind the Berdi signing. I agree he is a good utility. I also like the price. It allows them to be more aggressive somewhere else. Whether it is a trade or signing of a pitcher or another bench bat, or both, having that extra money could help. My fear is, he is the bench bat. Or at the very best he is one of the bench bats and he is the salary they are working with. Same with the pen. They have not shown they will spend bigger on the pen or the bench yet. And look how inexpensive they went with the rotation. If this is a move before the bigger addition, great. But if this is a move similar to what they do the rest of the off season, not so great.
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I agree. And if the Cubs think Canario on the bench gives them a better chance at scoring more runs, I am good with him there. I am not fine with him there because if he isn’t there they either have to dfa him or trade him. If they like someone is better in the outfield then they do need to move him. I would rather in a trade, but if that can’t happen then dfa him will not bother me. I wish this wasn’t their options. I wish he had another year where he can stay in AAA. But he doesn’t. So tough decisions need to be made. I happen to think there are better options out there than Canario.
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What exactly has Canario done to be given a spot on the major league roster, other than run out of options? Isn’t the goal to be the best team they can be in ‘25? If they spend $3M to $8M on a bench bat that can play the outfield, with major league experience I would be fine letting Canario go. That said, I would rather use him as maybe a second or third piece in a trade then dfa him. But I don’t want him on the roster if they can get someone better as a FA. Maybe him and Assad to SD for Suarez? Sign Bader, Joe, Grichik or Cahnu for the bench.
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Sadly I doubt they add 2 more bats. Maybe one more. Also one more pen arm. They are going to come in well below that LT line this year and it sucks that this is what they are doing. I honestly expect another guy at around $3M then a pen arm at about $8M and that is it. Well below what we hoped and very disappointing.
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I would say he isn’t the answer for the bench. I would hope they did better than Canario. Yes, he would be dfa or used as a piece in a trade.
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I think the Cubs lost him as soon as the Dodgers wanted him. I fully believe had the cubs upped their offer to match the Dodgers, the Dodgers would have just added more. Cubs were not going to win that battle.
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I agree he is doing exactly what Tom wants him to do. But I think Tom will throw him under the bus if they don’t win. He will blame someone. Then sign another guy who will agree to be the same kind of president of baseball ops Jed has been. An owner yes man.
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Thats an interesting and unexpected take by you. I think if they don’t win he is gone. That said, his replacement will be a similar type guy who will be a Ricketts yes man.
