Magnetic Curses

Greinke i'll give you. He became a strikeout pitcher in the big leagues.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hallad001har http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=wilson002chr Halladay relearned how to pitch the second time around and Wilson wasn't good until recently. Still, a couple of exceptions that prove the rule.

turner's k/9 tell me that he'll never be top of the rotation. i mean, doesn't a serious ace-prospect have to be at least over 9 at every level? i mean, that's a minimum requirement. if you can't strike guys out, you can't dominate. if you can't dominate, you're back-end. Greg Maddux says Hello, as do several HOF pitchers from the early 1900s (Walter Johnson included). So ''several'' pitchers in the history of baseball, pretty compelling evidence there. HOF = Hall of Fame. Do you really want me to go thru the names? Or are you ok now? are you having a stroke? stick to the subject. name some top (or simply top of the rotation starters) pitchers in baseball today that didn't have a k/9 at least around 9 consistently in the minor leagues.

turner's k/9 tell me that he'll never be top of the rotation. i mean, doesn't a serious ace-prospect have to be at least over 9 at every level? i mean, that's a minimum requirement. if you can't strike guys out, you can't dominate. if you can't dominate, you're back-end. Greg Maddux says Hello, as do several HOF pitchers from the early 1900s (Walter Johnson included). So ''several'' pitchers in the history of baseball, pretty compelling evidence there.

turner's k/9 tell me that he'll never be top of the rotation. i mean, doesn't a serious ace-prospect have to be at least over 9 at every level? i mean, that's a minimum requirement. if you can't strike guys out, you can't dominate. if you can't dominate, you're back-end.

if all we're going to get is a top 40ish guy and a top 100ish guy, it'd be stupid to trade him. garza is worth the future. if we can't get 1 high level can't-miss out of him, then no dice.

i do not want to bow before the golem

i think it's some idiot making a superficial connection between his domination of AAA pitching and his struggles in the majors in 150 PAs at the age of 21/22. it's lazy and it's why a lot of scouts just suck balls.

you never heard about the mcdome thing?

I think you're obsessed with expected numbers and what AAA numbers project. Those projections can certainly be guidelines for what can be expected for over a large enough sample size, but you can't necessarily hold individual players to every general prediction. Will he strike out a lot? Sure. Will it follow the projection exactly for every player that strikes out a lot in the minors? Can't say.

I have a mancrush on that guy. I wish i was him

so eovaldi, webster, or gould? got to get one of those guys if they want dempster.

these idiots have no chance against lester

It has been forever since I've listened to a Cubs game on the radio, I am thinking that might be a good thing (although I still like Pat Hughes obviously). he said "warshington" yesterday

People think that rooting for the Heat makes them less meatball-like. It's like people who pretend they're into Frank Zappa because they think it makes them look like music snobs. I know Zappa was a great musician and everything but come on, FRANK ZAPPA BURNED DOWN YOUR GHETTO. DON'T YOU HATE HIM LIKE JUST A LITTLE BIT? IS IT REALLY WORTH LISTENING TO HIS MUSIC TO DENY YOUR INNER MEATBALL? Be human, bro. Be human.

they killed cyrus

We call them native americans now.

i think it's still below average. but i'd like to see him win the starting job out of spring training next year, that would be nice.

do you like thick onion gravy?

Uh huh. And pitching is going to conjure itself out of midair or my ass, too.

I will have an argument, but I'm ostensibly posting from my phone right now.

Love super duper from Kyle. Ostensibly is just an insufferable word though.

this alone is like $400M worth of commitments this is still a bottom-5 offense in baseball that's conjecture. but the giants skate by with worse.

this alone is like $400M worth of commitments or 1/3rd of the annual payroll. which is why it's a good thing we develop our position players.

When Epstein talks like that, it starts to seem so appealing. Who wouldn't want to watch a team grow from draft day to World Series? But unless we clean up even better than we hope in the Garza/Dempster/everyone trades this July, I don't see how that's feasible. If Jackson busts, you've got exactly two positions filled with homegrown potential stars, and the next guy to have even a chance of being an impact talent after them is Lake in 2014. I don't see how you could build a playoff-quality lineup with that method even by 2015. And the pitching is even further behind. you plug in jackson, who is a significant upgrade to anything we have or could get in cf (and that's where he'll have to play), rizzo, who will be a long-term upgrade over what we have now, and vitters, who is a question mark, but worthy of a shot when the alternative is considered (not that stewart is a terrible player). i wouldn't trade soto, but i'd pursue greinke AND hamels heavily, it's the only way we're going to contend--we have no pitching talent on the farm, we're going to have to spend big on pitching. hopefully we are able to get a reasonable return on lahair or soriano, but you'll need one or the other in left field to get the full benefit of jackson in center. jackson has put up numbers at every level, i'm confident he'll do the same at the next. then, you have: 1. DeJesus- rf 2. Castro - ss 3. Rizzo - 1b 4. Soriano - lf 5. Jackson - cf 6. Vitters - 3b 7. Barney - 2b 8. Soto- c starters: hamels greinke garza shark wood/maholm that gives us a shot and 6 homegrown players in the field.