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Well it's going right along with what Olney just said. And Olney's track record should tell you he's wrong, so what does that say about Churchills info? I suspect that you're only saying Olney's track record is bad because you don't like what he's saying. The reality is that most of these guys are wrong a lot because they predict so many things and write so many articles. When multiple people are hearing the same thing (and I highly doub Churchill is piggy backing Olney) that's when I tend to start paying attention. You can believe what you want about this Churchill guy, I don't really care, but don't act like he's just blwing smoke up my ass for no reason. He's been right in the past so he's not making it up. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong. Thease guys are wrong all the time. I wasn't acting like he was blowing smoke up your 4th point of contact for no reason. You were acting like Olney's report had any significance on the note you got, and it didn't, which is all I was saying. You're being waaay to sensitive. Don't get mad just because we don't want to put too much stock into your source at this time on this one issue. my "source"? He's a guy with a website who I e-mail sometimes. You could do the same. I never said he's right, all I said is that he's not making it up. You were the one who proclaimed that Olney was surely wrong. I never said anybody was surely right. Neither of us know for sure what's up.. you're the opnly one that claimed you did. Did you even bother reading the post you just replied to? Umm, yeah... that's why everything I said related to it. Apparently you didn't. Whatever, I don't care.

Well everybody thought the Roberts trade would go down...even Roberts was told. You're right though, this should all be taken lightly because things always change.

That's all I'm saying. Things/rumors could still change in an instant...I just don't like the way it looksl ike things are heading.

Well it's going right along with what Olney just said. And Olney's track record should tell you he's wrong, so what does that say about Churchills info? I suspect that you're only saying Olney's track record is bad because you don't like what he's saying. The reality is that most of these guys are wrong a lot because they predict so many things and write so many articles. When multiple people are hearing the same thing (and I highly doub Churchill is piggy backing Olney) that's when I tend to start paying attention. You can believe what you want about this Churchill guy, I don't really care, but don't act like he's just blwing smoke up my ass for no reason. He's been right in the past so he's not making it up. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong. Thease guys are wrong all the time. I wasn't acting like he was blowing smoke up your 4th point of contact for no reason. You were acting like Olney's report had any significance on the note you got, and it didn't, which is all I was saying. You're being waaay to sensitive. Don't get mad just because we don't want to put too much stock into your source at this time on this one issue. my "source"? He's a guy with a website who I e-mail sometimes. You could do the same. I never said he's right, all I said is that he's not making it up. You were the one who proclaimed that Olney was surely wrong. I never said anybody was surely right. Neither of us know for sure what's up.. you're the opnly one that claimed you did.

He's already available. Actually they're trying to trade him.

Oh man, I'd love to see the Orioles lose Teixeira to the Nats.

I'd start him, but if he performs like he did last season I could see him not being a starter. I've liked him for awhile and I think he'll rebound, but he was pretty awful last year.

If we don't get Peavy, a deal for Hermida and Olson could end up being a good deal depending on the cost. Take Olsen and flip him to the O's in a deal for BRob. Assuming Pie and Cedeno would be part of a trade: 1B - Lee 2B - BRob SS - Theriot 3B - ARam LF - Soriano CF - Fukudome/Johnson RF - Hermida/Derosa C - Soto Bench: Johnson/Fukudome, Fontenot, Hoffpair, Derosa/Hermida, MI sub, Blanco/Hill MacPhail said Roberts isn't available. They're trying to lock him up.

Well it's going right along with what Olney just said. And Olney's track record should tell you he's wrong, so what does that say about Churchills info? I suspect that you're only saying Olney's track record is bad because you don't like what he's saying. The reality is that most of these guys are wrong a lot because they predict so many things and write so many articles. When multiple people are hearing the same thing (and I highly doub Churchill is piggy backing Olney) that's when I tend to start paying attention. You can believe what you want about this Churchill guy, I don't really care, but don't act like he's just blwing smoke up my ass for no reason. He's been right in the past so he's not making it up. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong. Thease guys are wrong all the time.

IMO, I don't think the Peavy to the Braves deal is as close as Churchill is claiming. I think this is Churchill trying to excite Braves fans into buying the newpaper that has his article. What article? He didn't write that on a website.... he e-mailed it to me because I ask him about Cubs stuff a lot. Anyways, if that was his motive wouldn't he want to excite Cubs fans instead of Braves fans? Which proves my post in that what he wrote to you is pure rumor and can't really substantiate it and was just giving you an opinion based on what is already out there. So unless Churchill works for the Braves or have a source inside the organization ( :roll: ) all he is doing is reciting his own opinion. Where did I say it wasn't rumor? Of course it's rumor. It's not just his opinion though, he has a contact in the Cubs FO (which is why I e-mail him in the first place) and he has e-mailed me things h'es heard in the past before I read it anywhere else and has been right. He's not just guessing or sharing his opinions. You can be skeptical of how reliable his info is, but he def. hears it from someone. The fact that Olney just said the Braves and Pads have made progress coupled with what Churchill told me leads me to believe that there's probably some truth to it. Obviously it's just rumors at this point, so there's no need for the eye rolling.

IMO, I don't think the Peavy to the Braves deal is as close as Churchill is claiming. I think this is Churchill trying to excite Braves fans into buying the newpaper that has his article. What article? He didn't write that on a website.... he e-mailed it to me because I ask him about Cubs stuff a lot. Anyways, if that was his motive wouldn't he want to excite Cubs fans instead of Braves fans?

Which is why I'm thinking that the Cubs never really had a realistic shot and Towers was just using us as leverage. In reality, the Padres would be stupid to trade Peavy to us. He's a top 5 pitcher and we don't have a legit centerpiece for a guy like that. Hendry got something out of it, too -- the fan base is excited again. Yeah....for a couple weeks. If we lose him to the Braves then the fan base will be even more depressed than when the rumors started. Now settling for re-signing Dempster is going to seem like a big failure. Disappointed, yes. Depressed? Not so sure. Hendry is collecting all kinds of credit for nearly pulling this off. Wouldn't it be funny if he and Towers were just doing each other a favor? Regardless, I'd say the Cubs are better off with the Peavy buzz than without it, regardless of the outcome. If Peavy goes to the Braves I don't see how any good could possibly have come of all this. I know I'll personally feel worse about the Cubs than I did 2 weeks ago. I wasn't expecting much at all this offseason then I got sucked into the Peavy talk. Anything else will be a letdown. Where is all this credit that hendry has gotten? If we lose Peavy to ATL for their 37th best package then I think that would look pretty bad. I just don't see how the Peavy buzz could be looked at as a postivie if we lose him. I'd think the fanbase would be even more bummed. It's like "we won 97 and got swept in the playoffs again....but we're getting Peavy so we'll have a super-rotation! Oh wait, nevermind.... we'll have to get Scott Olsen instead." It seems like a cruel joke.

Bleh. Olsen is not really good and going from Dolphin Stadium to Wrigley wouldn't help.I'm starting to get worried about what our rotation might look like next season.

Bleh. Olsen is not really good and going from Dolphin Stadium to Wrigley wouldn't help.I'm starting to get worried about what our rotation might look like next season.

There was nothing in that article that resembled the 2 things you said about Vitters ad Samardzija. In fact, it said that Samardzija would certainly not be offered by the Cubs.

Which is why I'm thinking that the Cubs never really had a realistic shot and Towers was just using us as leverage. In reality, the Padres would be stupid to trade Peavy to us. He's a top 5 pitcher and we don't have a legit centerpiece for a guy like that. If Peavy wants to win he should nix the trade and wait until after the ASB. The Braves aren't winning with him and they will be in real bad shape without their SS. I'm kind of thinking that the Braves will get both Greene and Peavy. I wish Peavy was more of an a-hole and just told Towers "trade me to the Cubs or I'm staying."

Which is why I'm thinking that the Cubs never really had a realistic shot and Towers was just using us as leverage. In reality, the Padres would be stupid to trade Peavy to us. He's a top 5 pitcher and we don't have a legit centerpiece for a guy like that. Hendry got something out of it, too -- the fan base is excited again. Yeah....for a couple weeks. If we lose him to the Braves then the fan base will be even more depressed than when the rumors started. Now settling for re-signing Dempster is going to seem like a big failure.

Yeah, I don't want any part of kevin Gregg unless we can basically get him for free. Even when he was closing out games it was always an adventure. He's not really good.

Which is why I'm thinking that the Cubs never really had a realistic shot and Towers was just using us as leverage. In reality, the Padres would be stupid to trade Peavy to us. He's a top 5 pitcher and we don't have a legit centerpiece for a guy like that.

Samardzija's agent already said that he'll undr no circumstances accept a trade. He's staying. I feel like it was kind of a pipe dream getting Peavy. The Braves are offering up like their 10th best package and they're still in it.

Well it's going right along with what Olney just said.

Just got an e-mail from Churchill- I can't wait until we pay Dempster 60 million to have a 4.30 ERA.

And the actual info in it is much older than that.

Pretty funny that Kerry Collins is passing all over the Bears d. He's on pace for a 34-46 360 yard game.

So what's a good way to get rid of the sting of another postseason choke? Immediately get our hopes up for Peavy only tp get crushed again.