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    where are these people? All over this board. The man love for Dunn on this board exceeds that for every player in the league whose first name doesn't start with Geo. Just find one post on this board that implies that Dunn is just a small step behind Pujols. Just one.
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    Dunn is overrated. There's alot of people who consider him to be just a small step behind Pujols as an elite hitter, when he's not even close. He's regarded as comparable in value to players like Berkman, Utley, H Ramirez, Chipper Jones, etc. Some people seem to think of him as highly as Manny (not many, but a few) as a hitter, and he's not even close. Yeah, there are also people that think Derrek Lee is still an elite hitter and that Jasom Bartlett was te MVP of the Rays this season. It's your fault for paying attention to such people. Seriously, anybody who is even moderately knowledgable about baseball doesn't make those comparisons. I don't know where you're getting them. Anyways, I don't really see how Dunn is overrated at all. I never here people rave about him. I never hear ESPN talk aobut how much money he's going to make this offseason. When he was traded to the Diamondbacks you barely hard anything about it outside of Arizona. If anything, I think he's underrated. I much moreoften hear the "he hits for too low of an average" stuff than I hear "he's an elite hitter" type stuff.
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    Why? You're acting like our 3-4-5 hitters are Pujols/Arod/Manny and our 6-7-8 guys are Nieifi/Macias/Patterson. Our lineup this season was extremely balanced...the 3-4-5 wasn't really significantly better than the 6-7-8. so I don't see why getting on base in front of Lee is anymore important than getting on base in front of...say...DeRosa.
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    Do we really need another .800-.850 OPS hitter? I don't see what Abreu could do for this team. I'd rather slide DeRosa to right and give Fontenot an every day spot and see what he can do over the course of a full season than spend money on Abreu.
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    Abreu sounds like a really bad idea.
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    Strikeouts are overrated. Dunn is a vastly superior player to Soriano. Not the same player outside of the horrendous strike out rate. There's not much difference IMO. Soriano is Dunn of the tools first guys. Dunn is the Soriano of the SABR guys. Both are really flawed players. Dusty? Is that you? Soriano and Dunn are not at all alike. They both strike out a lot and that's it. To say there's not much difference is pretty ridiculous. Soriano swings at everything Dunn swings at strikes. Yeah, pretty big difference. Plus Dunn hits for way more power while Soriano hits for better average and is faster. Same player though...totally. I'm glad you understood what I said thank you. :roll: They are not alike as players but in terms of where they stand on the SABR vs. Tools debate they both stand at about the same spot on the spectrum both are hilariously overrated by the guys on their argument side. I don't think that's true at all. I think people that actually know baseball accurately rate those guys. Of course you'll have the casual fans who are all "omg soriano is an mvp caliber player!" but you can't really pay attention to that. Most baseball people understand what those guys are.... .900 OPS corner outfielders with terrible defense.
  7. 17 Seconds
    But more importantly, who is better looking? Roberts has more a boyish charm, but DeRosa has that rugged manly look going when he has a beard. Wait, what?
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    lawl
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    Maybe wrigley23 is an OH poster in diguise. All those guy think the Cubs would have advanced if Roberts was leadingg off instead of Soriano. Pretty funny.
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    Pick up the option and then just don't use him until September. Seriously though, he shouldn't be a problem as long as people understand what we're getting. With Prior everybody always had expectations of him staying healthy and that's where the problems started. We need to realize that Harden won't stay healthy all year, it simply will not happen. Still, as others have said, 20 starts of Harden is well worth the 7 million. That said, I really think we need another good SP because I don't expect Dempster to come close to matching last year's numbers and Harden could miss practically the entire season without anybody being surprised.
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    I don't think I've ever been on a message board where you see that a guy recently made a post and you KNOW 100% what it's going to be about, no matter what thread or forum it's in. There could be a post about the bailout and he's find a way to bring Soriano into it.
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    Oh look, someone made a post that kind of relates to Soriano. I'm going to go trash Soriano and then disappear for 3 months.
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    Strikeouts are overrated. Dunn is a vastly superior player to Soriano. Not the same player outside of the horrendous strike out rate. There's not much difference IMO. Soriano is Dunn of the tools first guys. Dunn is the Soriano of the SABR guys. Both are really flawed players. Dusty? Is that you? Soriano and Dunn are not at all alike. They both strike out a lot and that's it. To say there's not much difference is pretty ridiculous. Soriano swings at everything Dunn swings at strikes. Yeah, pretty big difference. Plus Dunn hits for way more power while Soriano hits for better average and is faster. Same player though...totally.
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    NTC
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    Somebody who posts there needs to show him the season numbers of Roberts and DeRosa and then ask him to explain how Roberts would have been a big upgrade over DeRosa. As fr the second bolded pardt, ask if he was happy during the regular season when DeRosa was having a career year and outperforming Roberts. Or how about whether or not he was happy as DeRosa was one of the 2 Cubs that actually hit in the playoffs. Also, somebody needs to explain to him that we wouldn't have gotten the Fontenot production if Roberts was acquired. What was the overall production from 2B for the Cubs this year? Cubs 2nd basemen produced a 836 OPS. Is it really that low? Where can I find individual positional splits?
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    The guys at OH are already at it again. Somebody who posts there needs to show him the season numbers of Roberts and DeRosa and then ask him to explain how Roberts would have been a big upgrade over DeRosa. As fr the second bolded pardt, ask if he was happy during the regular season when DeRosa was having a career year and outperforming Roberts. Or how about whether or not he was happy as DeRosa was one of the 2 Cubs that actually hit in the playoffs. Also, somebody needs to explain to him that we wouldn't have gotten the Fontenot production if Roberts was acquired. What was the overall production from 2B for the Cubs this year?
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    First off, I'm NOT saying I want him..... but does anybody else feel like this is going to be the guy Hendry ends up getting? Lefty, can play RF (can he still?), could hit in the middle of the order. He's coming off a .304/.360/.552 year so I could see Hendry wanting to get him.
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    It wouldn't surprise me if Hendry wanted to get Roberts, slide DeRosa to RF and then let Fuku/Pie battle it out of the other half of a CF platoon with Johnson. I'd much rather go hard after an impact middle of the order bat, but I don't think Hendry has the resources to sign/trade for someone like that.
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    Well I wasn't saying he was an established hitter. I was talking more about the strikeout theory in general. He said that strikeouts will be the main reason Fontenot can't be as good as Pedroia and I don't think that's true at all. He was implying that strikeouts automatically put you in a hole and you can't be extremely successful with them. I just didn't like the "obviously K-rates and talent go hand in hand" statement because that's not at all true.
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    Exactly. Fontenot struck out a lot last season, but also walked a ton and was extremely productive. If he did it for 200-300 at-bats last season, why can't he keep doing it? Strikeouts aren't a big deal if you've proven you can hit with them.
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    Well, they can be related, but to say they go hand in hand is silly. To say that strikeouts are the main reason they'll never be the same is even more ridiculous, especially when you consider that Fontenot outperformed Pedroia in the time he played this season. Obviously that doesn't mean he would have if he played an entire season, but he pointed out that strikeouts will keep Fonenot from being as good as Pedroia. Okay, so why didn't they keep him from doing that this season in a pretty big chunk of at-bats? Think about all the crappy players who don't strike out and then think about all the elite hitters that do. Seriously guys, strikeouts aren't that big of a deal.
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    I'm totally on the Hawpe bandwagon. I think he'd be a solid addition to the team, and provide a left-handed middle of the order bat. I just don't think CO is willing to trade him nor would we have what it takes to get him. His home/road splits aren't bad either. But yeah, I don't see that happening.
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    I'd say the biggest reason is talent, not K rates Obviously, the two are related. No, they aren't. Seriously, strike outs aren't that big of a deal. They're not good, but to say that talent and strike outs go hand and hand is ridiculous. You know what 2 things DO go hand in hand? Patience (walks) and strikeouts. Fontenot drew a ton of walks this season, Pedroia did not. It's no surprise that Fontenot struck out more.
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    Did you guys see the girl at the Cell holding up the "Hey Cubbies, leave the postseason to us" sign during game 3? Pretty funny, especially considering the Sox were down 2-0 when she made the sign.
  25. 17 Seconds
    He said he was talking about their size and relative power.
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