I think it says guys don't like playing behind Rich. He is slow, throws lots of pitches and really doesn't get the defense involved (Lots of K's and flyballs). Whoa whoa whoa I'm not saying anything like that, I'm just saying it might affect Rich a little pyschologically. He plays his heart out and the bats never seem to pay him any favors. I know what you're saying. And I'm saying that maybe if he pitched a little faster (lower pitch counts, quicker innings) that the bats might pick him up more often. I'm saying that's crazy talk. Oh really? Have you eve played baseball before? Go ask a fielder how much they hate playing behind a Steve Trachsel type, then get back to me. I totally get (& buy into) what you're saying on the defensive side, but I guess I just can't see how it would necessarily carry-over to the offensive side. Admittedly, I only played baseball up through high school... If a player is carrying his angst over a slow pitcher w/ him up to the plate, dude needs to simply sack-up & get over it, IMO.