CaliforniaRaisin
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He didn't do half bad in his 4 shutout innings in the big leagues too. Don't forget about Ricky Nolasco while you have that drill handy.
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I don't believe they've ever scored more than 26. The Cubs FRANCHISE once score 36 runs in a game against Louisville back in 1897. :shock: I remember day as if it was yesterday...aw...memories... Ya know..... I vaguely recall the CUBS beating Louisville the day before Custer bought it out in South Dakota !! Fred wrong on a stat?? :shock:
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Eyre strike
CaliforniaRaisin replied to 3finger's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
We'll get those added right away! No trades with Braves, Astros, Cardinals, White Sox, Royals, Dodgers, Giants , or A's because several of us Cub fans don't wanna be made fun of! Since LA, SF and Oakland are already on there, add the Angels, Padres and the Red Sox. C'mon guys, we should be able to ban the Cubs from trading with every MLB team soon enough (that might be the best strategy for Hendry at this rate, but that's for another thread). -
Sorry, trying not to jinx it... to no avail. Aww, I'm a fan of the Rocket strategy when it comes to potential no-hitters.
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Frankly, I'd prefer Tyrus to Roy but Brandon Roy is awesome. Roy does seem to fit the bill of previous Paxson picks. Hopefully the Lakers don't take Farmar so I can still root for him.
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<3 Deryck. His BB-K ratio last year in Mesa (yeah, it was Mesa, but still) was awesome.
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2007 Draft Class
CaliforniaRaisin replied to Tim's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Ooo, nice to see Price #1. A bit surprised Main is ahead of Stock (of course I'm biased since I've heard much more about Stock and have actually seen him pitch). -
Nice pickoff.
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If we're doing that, lets take your 3 year split. Starting from 2003, Livan got worse every year since. I don't value innings quite as much as you, but we'll throw that in there. Also I threw in this year to show the trend. Yes, he had a good year in '03. But he's on a downhill slide. 2003 233.1 innings 3.20 ERA 2004 255.0 innings 3.60 ERA 2005 246.1 innings 3.98 ERA 2006 97.1 innings 5.18 ERA He seems like he is in a long groove right now. I'd like to keep tracking this season before I say he is on a decline, but if he were to add another .40 to his ERA from last season, I would agree that he was. His 2003-2006 stats look less impressive when you consider Livan has pitched half his games in pitcher's haven in Washington.
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He's trying to say he doesn't care what actual factual statistics you come up with, he's sticking with his opinion, regardless how flimsy of evidence it's based upon. Or something like that. If you read the thread, this is a perfect post in regards to Raisin. He's saying Hernandez should be judged on what he was doing long ago and not recent history, but when it comes to Patterson, we should judge on what he is doing now beause he is a Cubs prospect and a fan favorite. I judged him on his career because you made a blanket statement about how good he is. Then, you started making different time limits that we should judge Livan (6-year splits, 3-year splits, can't count this season, etc.). It sure seems like you change your requirements for the stats as we keep going. In regards to Corey, I don't judge him based on just this season but also his awful 2005, his up and down 2004, his great 2003 and his awful 2002. Show me where I have only judged him based on this season (I have judged the Cubs coaching and management based on Corey's performance this season and what Lee Elia has said).
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Technically, Sean Gallagher did last week. On the roster, Ed Campusano will be coming up after the MWL All-Star game.
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No, it's extremely back-loaded. By the time those years come around, he'll have to have picked one sport.
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About Samardijza (And collegiate baseball-football players)
CaliforniaRaisin replied to Jazz's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
He has an advisor. -
Not sure what you're trying to say in your last post, but he has a 4.14 ERA over the last 6 years. Still doesn't match the 3.75 ERA you came up with.
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He could get to Peoria this year itself. If not, the Cubs will make sure he starts at Peoria next year, they'll be pretty deliberate with him.
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what gets cabrera?
CaliforniaRaisin replied to seattlecub's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Argue away the semantics, but both the trades you mentioned were head-scratchers at the time for most folks. We'll see if Tampa has really changed their steep price demands with a new GM. -
I'd rather go with the 3.75ish figure because he had high ERAs when he was pretty young. A 3.75 would have put a team in 3rd place in the NL for team ERA. Teams average around 1440 IP. Livan regularly accounts for close to 17% of the team innings. That's the kind of guy you want to have around. I'd rather go with the facts. How young is pretty young? I've bolded a few from seasons after he's been well established in the league. 1996: 0.00 ERA 1997: 3.18 ERA 1998: 4.72 ERA 1999: 4.64 ERA 2000: 3.75 ERA 2001: 5.24 ERA 2002: 4.38 ERA 2003: 3.20 ERA 2004: 3.60 ERA 2005: 3.98 ERA 2006: 5.18 ERA So he's posting a 4.16 career ERA, but he eats a lot more innings than most pitchers. Innings eaters are great, but I don't see how they're something extra special when they're pitching just average over all those extra innings. Early to mid 20's is pretty young with his lack of experience. All I'm saying is to judge him now not just on 3-year splits but 6-year splits. I don't see anything unreasonable about that. Basically whatever will fit your argument? So the past 6 years is ok?
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Yup...Florida, San Fran and now Washington.
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I'd rather go with the 3.75ish figure because he had high ERAs when he was pretty young. A 3.75 would have put a team in 3rd place in the NL for team ERA. Teams average around 1440 IP. Livan regularly accounts for close to 17% of the team innings. That's the kind of guy you want to have around. I'd rather go with the facts. How young is pretty young? I've bolded a few from seasons after he's been well established in the league. 1996: 0.00 ERA 1997: 3.18 ERA 1998: 4.72 ERA 1999: 4.64 ERA 2000: 3.75 ERA 2001: 5.24 ERA 2002: 4.38 ERA 2003: 3.20 ERA 2004: 3.60 ERA 2005: 3.98 ERA 2006: 5.18 ERA So he's posting a 4.16 career ERA, but he eats a lot more innings than most pitchers. Innings eaters are great, but I don't see how they're something extra special when they're pitching just average over all those extra innings.
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I don't like the idea of rotating pitchers between the pen and rotation because of the differences in preparing for the two (especially when you keep switching back and forth). Limit their pitches, skip a start from each of them once a month or so and you should be fine. That's a good strategy to have even if the Cubs weren't out of it.
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Livan is an exception to the rule because he produces an ungodly amount of innings. You can carry one less relief pitcher if you wanted because he pitches so much. So an ERA of X over Y IP = 3 or 4 starter but an ERA of X over Y + 50 IP = 1 or 2 starter You're talking out of both sides of your mouth here. Livan is probably the only guy who has an added value because of his stamina. That type of stamina is very rare and a big reason why he makes so much money. Why is added stamina so valuable if he's posting the same 4.16 ERA during that time?
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Look at pitches (specifically the pitches Prior threw as he tired and his mechanics altered). Pitcher abuse is a great stat to look at. Especially when it was Prior's first season throwing anywhere near that many innings. It's a good stat, but I'd like to see how many innings the non-Cubs at the top of the list pitch every year and what their performance is. I can tell you Livan Hernandez throws a lot of innings/pitches a year and really isn't that good. Actually, I'm a big fan of Livan and think he is a good pitcher. Is it the 5.18 ERA and 1.55 WHIP he has on the season that makes him a good pitcher? Or is it the career 4.16 ERA and .275 BAA? It's his numbers since leaving Florida (around 3.75 ERA) and the 220-250 IP every year as well as the complete games. He's not an ace, but one of the better No. 2's in the game. You NEVER have to worry about putting bums like Rusch in to pitch in his slot and dilute the numbers. I'm not judging him on his performance so far this year because he has a good and long resume. Wow. You do realize during his time in San Fran, he's had seasons worse or equivalent to Glendon Rusch had at the same time*? It's great that he can eat innings up, but it's not as great when he's average at best (and sometimes awful). And his career numbers aren't that great considering he's pitched his home games in three pitcher's havens (Florida, San Francisco and Washington). * 2001: Livan: 77 ERA+, Glendon: 89 ERA+ 2002: Livan: 87 ERA+, Glendon: 85 ERA+
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Look at pitches (specifically the pitches Prior threw as he tired and his mechanics altered). Pitcher abuse is a great stat to look at. Especially when it was Prior's first season throwing anywhere near that many innings. It's a good stat, but I'd like to see how many innings the non-Cubs at the top of the list pitch every year and what their performance is. I can tell you Livan Hernandez throws a lot of innings/pitches a year and really isn't that good. Actually, I'm a big fan of Livan and think he is a good pitcher. Is it the 5.18 ERA and 1.55 WHIP he has on the season that makes him a good pitcher? Or is it the career 4.16 ERA and .275 BAA?
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The word I heard at the game this afternoon was that Mota was going to be going up to be a bench guy, only playing about every 5th game or so. Given this, it makes more sense that he goes than Chirinos, who is thriving playing every day (and Mota hasn't been playing in Peoria more than about every 3 days or so here...) Thanks! I'm kind of disappointed then that Mota has been relegated to a bench role at such a young age.