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Hairston's newfound power? :shock:

Honestly, I doubt Corey will - he seems too quiet a guy. C'mon, Serge..

That's debateable, I wonder if Dusty would have had Corey playing in. If so, I don't think Corey would have caught it. And if Corey caught it, sure, the go-ahead run would score, but that's better than being down 2.

I can't believe some of you think that's Corey's fault. Ridiculous. And it's a good thing we have Blanco for the rest of the game.

Yes. Once Aramis hit it, he looked and admired it, started running hard thinking it might not go out, and then it went out and he jogged. That was a funny few seconds.

ARAMIS!!!! :D

sweet if ronnys running the team at least he will start himself. Nah, Baker is still running the team, Dusty's spot had the sun in his eyes and Ronny's was closer to the clubhouse so Dusty could run back and get a sandwich quicker. If Dusty gets his own sandwiches, then what does Ronny do???

Todd Walker's comments make it seem like Corey was asked to leadoff again, not that Corey asked to do it.

If any of you follow college football, I was wondering if you could help me in this thread (premium). Thanks!

Fair enough, it's tough to decipher listening on the radio, but I thought it was a fair assumption that they were booing Corey. Corey hasn't been helped by the umps at all recently. True, and it's likely that Corey isn't making much of a distinction either. The dude looked like he was ready to break down in the dugout yesterday. Based on what I've read about Corey's personality (I think Corey and I share some personality traits), he's much better equipped to handle the booing than, say, LaTroy, Hundley or Sammy. But there's going to be a point when even he can't handle it.

Fair enough, it's tough to decipher listening on the radio, but I thought it was a fair assumption that they were booing Corey. Corey hasn't been helped by the umps at all recently.

What fans do? I'd like to hear how booing a player for taking what should be ball 4 is what good fans do. It's what some fans do when they perceive a player isn't giving 100%. They paid their cash for seats, they're entitled to boo any time they want. Maybe some fans are booing stupidly. But that's not what you said. You said "booing is terrible." That's not selective. That's painting with a broad brush. I'd like to hear how you come to the conclusion that all booing is terrible. But they're booing Corey's performance, not that he's not trying 100%. Because it would be even more stupid if they were booing him for that, since he's one of the hardest workers on the team. I have no problem booing someone who's not trying. I think we should probably drop the subject since the game started, but I want the irony noted that a guy with Stephen A. Smith as his avatar doesn't like booing. :)

What's the point? Corey knows he's not doing well, he's obviously trying hard to break out of it. Booing him only hurts him, doesn't help him improve, and doesn't help his trade value if you want to get rid of him. You're not always going to get David Aardsma and Jerome Williams for a slumping player you boo out of town. And it's selective booing, where the heck is the booing for Neifi and others who have struggled at times just as badly as Corey. Huh? We just got Williams for Hawkins who was booed out of town! You're suggesting that GMs listen to the booes and use it as an evaluation tool. Surely you aren't serious. I'm saying booing a guy out of town will not always net us good trades. I'm saying you're decreasing his trade value as you continue to boo him. Heck, look at what happened yesterday. Everyone booed him for striking out looking at what most (besides the ump) thought was ball 4. Corey made a game-saving double play on defense, came up in his next AB, got a standing-o, struck out looking on a questionable pitch and was booed. This is no environment for Corey to break out of his slump, all the while, his trade value continues to go down. This is Corey Patterson we're talking about here, not Todd Hundley. Sometimes, the fans boo a guy out of town and the Cubs get a wonderful trade. Other times, the Cubs have to pay $17M to have him leave. And get Jerry Hairston, Mike Fontenot and a guy who retired.

What's the point? Corey knows he's not doing well, he's obviously trying hard to break out of it. Booing him only hurts him, doesn't help him improve, and doesn't help his trade value if you want to get rid of him. You're not always going to get David Aardsma and Jerome Williams for a slumping player you boo out of town. And it's selective booing, where the heck is the booing for Neifi and others who have struggled at times just as badly as Corey.

yeah but the boo birds were really going to be on him after that pop up on the 2-0 count with two guys on. And that is why booing is terrible. He could have easily been on base 4 times on Friday if Welke got some glasses and yet he's booed for taking pitches out of the zone in 3-2 counts. If you're want an player to improve, don't hate him when he does it. I love how a select percentage of fans can dictate what happens. Especially since based on my experiences at Wrigley, most of them are drunk and not paying much attention to the game. They're just waiting for a chance to boo him. Exactly.

Completely idiotic. This is the second time Corey has shown strides of improvement and Dusty has sat him.

I think having Corey and Neifi hit 1-2 is stupid and I'm a Dusty Buster, but I think it's over the top to say he's not very bright.

Did Polanco start any games for Peoria other than the second game of the recent doubleheader? No, that was his only start for Peoria.

Iowa: LHP Rich Hill (2-1, 3.55 ERA) @ RHP Josh Rupe (1-2, 9.11 ERA) West Tenn: LHP Sean Marshall (0-0, 2.45 ERA) vs. LHP Dana Eveland (8-4 2.94 ERA) Daytona: RHP Alfredo Polanco (Daytona debut, Peoria: 3-0, 5.59 ERA) vs. LHP Josh Habel (3-4, 2.81 ERA) Peoria: RHP Matt Weber (3-8, 3.39 ERA) @ RH Patrick Green (3-6, 4.86) Boise: RHP Michael Hyle (0-1, 1.59 ERA, 5.2 IP) @ RHP Zach Simmons (0-0, 3.38 ERA, 8 IP) Mesa: Same guess as yesterday - LHP Mark Pawelek (0-0, 0.00 ERA, 2.2 IP) Two of the best curves in the system in Hill and Marshall!

He'll keep hitting Burnitz cleanup from time to time, and that is a no-no in my book. Not that I'm in favor of putting Burnitz cleanup...but him being in the 4 spot isn't even near the top of the list of why the Cubs are underperforming. Oh, I agree. Amongst the Cubs offensive problems, Burnitz batting cleanup is not the biggest one, but I still don't like it (I guess that means I agree with you).

How many players go out there and become perfect top of the order hitters out the gate? Very few. Cedeño can put up Neifi's current numbers at the 2 spot now itself and has a future; if Ronny is in the big leagues, I see no reason why Neifi should hit 2 rather than Ronny (or start over him).

Interesting read. His BB-rates really weren't bad in the minors, I thought they'd be worse. Aww, looks like someone is in need of a hug. I volunteer Jon. http://images.minorleagueball.com/images/admin/ankiel2.jpg

He'll keep hitting Burnitz cleanup from time to time, and that is a no-no in my book.

LF Hairston 2B Walker 1B Lee 3B Ramirez RF Burnitz C Barrett CF Patterson SS Cedeño

If this were true, Dusty should be fired for attempting to sabotage the team's chances at success and trying to ruin a player.