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Since this post names Martin Short but leaves the manager unnamed, is it a wash or does it only count as a Martin Short post? I guess I'm just adding to the problem.

Flex, Donald Brown @Ari, Bobby Rainey @ Det, or Shane Vereen v Den. Non PPR. Somehow got Rainey at 6th on the waiver wire.

Yea, I have no problem with taking the knee on the return. The field conditions sucked and the minimal chance is not worth the huge risk. Just rewatched the 2 minute drill. I can understand the perspective from not calling the TO from the 5 with 1:15. The explanation makes sense. But right out of the two minute drill, they got a first to the 16, and 1:55 was on the clock. Not sure why you don't call the TO there. If you stop them 3 times and use all your timeouts, you're still looking at about 50-55 seconds. The thing is, they're still in a possible passing situation there, so if you make a stop on a pass, you may get a free stoppage and get the clock with well over a minute left, albeit with no timeouts. The only other thing that crosses my mind though is that if you make a stop there, it was a run play, and now Baltimore is in the position of maybe burning timeouts, or you can still stop the clock just as you would if you had called it prior to that play- still gets the same end result, 3 stops and one full play clock, but Trestman took the running clock for first down when the defense was reeling rather than stop downs 1-3. From a time perspective timeouts on 1-3 are no different than timeouts 2-4. Is either better? You could probably go really deep trying to break down the offenses possible responses, but if you let up a first down its all moot. It was a really bad performance from the D to give up a first like than in a short play. If your D makes a better play there, the timeout situation looks better. Timeout or not, there were two back breaking first downs in a row there though. If you make stops, Baltimore is the one stopping the clock. Mostly I'm just glad there seems to have been a very conscious and deliberate strategy that wasn't meat-bally, even if it was ultimately questionable and risky. I also disagree with your assumption about the other team scoring.

As mad as I was last night, I feel quite a bit better after the explanation.

When did Jennings almost die, because I only remember Steltz brain nearly exploding.

So as crazy unlucky as our defensive injuries have been, its even crazier to look at our offense, and despite Jay missing time we've been really freaking lucky, because we do not have any depth. We've basically used 2 WR, a TE and a RB to get all our yardage, with our 3rd WR making just enough of a dent to get mention, but not really be a significant part of our offense. So as much as we have many needs to fill on our defense, some depth on O is needed as well. Is there snap stats? What percentage of plays is Eben Britton one of our eligible receivers, because it really feels like a lot. And to go along with the lucky health, our OLine has started every game as a unit. So our one real injury is our QB and our backup has done just about as well as you could hope for.

So same guy is looking to deal, and he is in the tank and looking for keepers. RB consistency has been my weakest link, but I'm not sure his roster helps me with that. Side by Side Roster comparisons My Roster (Keeper value) QB: Andrew Luck($24) RB: Reggie Bush($29) Zac Stacy CJ Spiller($23) Donald Brown Jonathan Stewart WR: DeSean Jackson($14) Antonio Brown($10) Alshon Jeffrey($4) Aaron Dobson TE: Tony Gonzalez($14) Rob Housler D/ST: Carolina New England Buffalo K: Prater($2) IR: Vereen($9)(needs to come off next week most likely) and Crabtree($3) His Roster, excluding guys who are off the table with him. Not posting keeper value as they all are ineligible or too high) QB: Nick Foles Tom Brady RB: Andre Ellington DeMarco Murray MJD WR: Larry Fitzgerald Hakeem Nicks Eric Decker Steve Smith TE: Jimmy Graham D/ST, who cares I don't immediately see anything I love, but Jimmy Graham keeps jumping out to me. I think Foles or Brady could out-produce Luck as well. I really like my keepers going into next year, but I'm capped at three, so I feel like I primed to make a move for now and still carry over 3 good keeper options next year. I'm very attached to my three big WR, but having trouble on which one I'd part with. I don't think I can go into next year using all three keepers on them, but they're also pretty critical to this years run. Any thoughts?

We're gonna go 10-6 and miss on the tie-breaker again, while the AFC lets in a 8-8 or 7-9 team.

It's entirely possible McCown would be more productive in Trestman's system than a gimpy Cutler for the remainder of the year. Yes, Cutler's health is a huge question mark, but I don't believe anyone making those statements is factoring in health to the equation.

Did Trestman start crying there?

Holy [expletive] steltz. My feed froze right as he made contact and I knew he was gonna be knocked silly.

Yea the downside was way more likely then Hester taking it to the house on this field.

What the [expletive]. I'm really thinking Trestman forgot about clock management since the clocks stops all the time in the CFL. Seriously, what the [expletive].

Even though I just got owned by a loophole, my mind is blown that one side of the fronts is going to get that good.

Hey I think this thread officially has more posts about Martin Short than the Cubs new manager, so that's cool.

Okay re-reading the thread, I missed a post or two while processing my response, but they guy who questions the $5M/win WAR value and tells everyone our expectations of this free agent market are going to be way undervalued really shouldn't be the guy even playing the devils advocate pointing out the human behavior fallacies that would support trading Castro. And I say that as someone who probably appreciates your role on this board more than most, Kyle.

And those teams also know we know that so like, wouldn't they compensate in their offer? I mean you could go in circles with this. It's really rudimentary, but Baseball reference tells me he could be this decade's Edgar Renteria, and I know thats like 1/2 of what many expected circa 2011, but its still really worth while what we're paying him, especially over- say - more prospects. He showed a pretty elite skill set for some time that I'm inclined to believe makes him a pretty good bet over a prospect or a sure bet. The downside is $11M plus $1M buyout in 2019. Thats like Nate Schierholtz risk in today's money.

But your use of the word another really makes me believe your just picking sides. Its true that he's more likely to rebound than regress, no?

LOL WUT In other words, who knows what will happen. Just do whatever.

As if we could be so lucky. I wanna be the team who has to install a ramp in the dugout and have a scooter so our manager can get to the pitchers mound.

We have no reason to not go all Rays-like with our Shark demands. Very little to lose, so I would expect a big return or you just hold into him.

I mean if they knew for sure it was broken or even might be he comes out in a sling right?

McCown getting the "full" offense isn't that crazy considering a half game of work and two weeks to prepare.

The risk-reward isn't so great. If you don't get it they get the ball on your 35 down by 4, if you do get it the drive can still stall without significantly affecting the clock the field position or the game. But the meatball in me likes it. Non-meatball rational. Pack have been running effectively all game and would have had decent field position and ability to chew clock on a TD drive. Might as well get the ball back sooner if you fail. That's the best rational I can come up with.

Oh man the Rich Gannon comparisons are starting. This will be fun.