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Belated Black Monday
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Big assumption George knows how to use a computer.
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NFL Coach carousel thread (non Bears)
WrigleyField 22 replied to WrigleyField 22's topic in Other Sports
Jaguars requests go in for Glenn and Johnson. Breers wording is interesting though... 🤔 -
Vrabrel interview reportedly tomorrow
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NFL Coach carousel thread (non Bears)
WrigleyField 22 replied to WrigleyField 22's topic in Other Sports
If I was a team looking at Nagy I'd feel a lot better if he hadn't run immediately back to Reid. May he have learned from some things in Chicago? Yes. But I think he'd learn a lot more working with other coaches and proving QB development outside Mahomes. -
Eh, he's right below the cusp where I wouldn't really have a second thought.
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After Johnson, I'm truely more open to candidates regardless of background. Though to the extent they have HC background I'm looking at it differently. I'll grant that going O will raise floor of possibilies for Williams development, but I truely think they can't be so short sided. So I'd have a slight preference for O but also can't really pretend that from my view I could look at like Weaver and Coen and make a "all else equal" type claim on it. Of course it's the Bears so I kind of expect failure but that's true if it's a non Ben OC too lol
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They can't be in something that doesn't exist.
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Just gonna lie and tell myself every single request is a negotiating tactic against Johnson's agent.
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Funny enough, he actually is a money baller, and not *awful* at in in sense of finding value, at least for the OL; APY spent on line. Estimated FMV (per Over the Cap Metric) Team________APY OL________OTC Val________Excess Value Broncos ______76,176,343____81,484,000_______5,307,657 Commanders___51,151,401____55,897,000_______4,745,599 Bears_________32,822,433___42,651,000_______9,828,567 He technincally built the most efficient OL which is very pleasing to the average anlaytic nerd who will probably tell you blindly "Sacks are a QB stat". Who cares if its half as productive as Denvers - look how wasteful theirs is!
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Losing is bad. Losing on purpose is really bad. The "Cap hell" was a myth. Yes 7-10 is better than 3-14. The cumulative league record of bottoming out isn't favorable. Seriously look at the history of #1 to relevance. The case studies are really not that favorable. The only empiracle evidence us that higher picks are on average better, but the practical evidence if that going to good use for the actual team is comparatively pretty bad.
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Eh you can come up with any excuse to do that if that's what you want to do. And it's what he wanted. That the Bears gave him the opportunity he wanted isnt some direct line back to Bears keeping Pace that year before.
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Thats very different than saying that the line of decision-making is dependent on the preceeding ones. Yes, Bears fans should fear every decision that comes from the Bears organization.
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Thats actually a decent point. Saints will have a new staff and may need to move on from Carr without an obvious path to finding a replacement level QB. Best bet they probably have is to win the Kirk Cousins for minimum sweepstakes and hope he rebounds. Otherwise they could be an easy matchup. Carolina seems like they are on upswing (particularly with Youngs play to end year). I guess we hope CMC is permanently broke and that 49ers have to cut a lot of weight to prepare for a Purdy extension and get to have the fun of premier QB money for him. First step to 10 wins is 3-3 in the division. They played 4 of the division games within a field goal with this roster/staff. Minny could be down next year too if they opt to go to McCarthy or Darnold turns into pumpkin. If they could go 3-3 in division, can they go 7-4 against following? Giants Cowboys Commanders Eagles Steelers Browns Ravens Bengals Raiders Saints 49ers Not a ton of room for error, but yes I think they have the capacity to get there from where they stand today (just very generally speaking, not a vote of confidence for who's actually making the decisions, but they can prove me wrong!)
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Coaching solves a lot of the personnel issues imo. But a lot is on Poles plate too. He needs to be about as aggressive as he was in 2023 offseason and a lot smarter about it too. But they certainly can get there.
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He might get an interview somewhere, but I don't think with the Bears. At this stage have we even gotten a confirmation of Bears with Vrabrel? Although I'm usually not super high in the Bears are cheap talk, there's smoke there until we see any experienced / big name get an interview (outside of Johnson I suppose )
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Yep even if we conceded that (1) Justin Fields at QB on rookie deal and (2) no FRP necessitated a gut tear down tank (I didn't IMO), it's still 2 whole extra offseasons of getting there. Fields wasn't holding back building back up. The 2022 lost first wasn't. It is just all of Poles cumulative moves and non moves. To reach back further is pointless in a league that frequently sees quick changes (good or bad). Even further - I think there's the claim from original point that it was a direct relationship to their GM being a "lame duck" that led to that decision making tree. That claim isn't well supported logically nor by even poorly sourced rumor milling I've ever seen.
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Yep. And I can even see the argument that trying for the CEO isn't the route teams should take when they have an opening. But doesn't mean it can't hit.
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Week 18, Bears at Packers, noon Sunday, Fox
WrigleyField 22 replied to Hairyducked Idiot's topic in Other Sports
Given the alternative, no. But a lot still just goes back to Poles trying to slow build and thread the needle on the whole roster, but especially the OL. He needed every move he did make to hit to even have an average OL. As it was several flopped and we have the weak ass OL we do. -
Poles' obligatory hometown kid because he has a weird hard on for it
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A few articles about Dan Campbells in game decision making and analytics: https://themich.org/2024/04/16/data-driven-determination-the-science-behind-the-detroit-lionss-strategy/ https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2023/9/20/23882058/analytics-say-lions-coach-dan-campbells-game-decisions-best-nfl-win-probability-4th-down https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2024/01/29/dan-campbell-4th-down-detroit-lions-nfc-championship-game-49ers/72394554007/ I made a joke once that LA hiring a nerd (Staley) was the wrong move. The right move is to hire a jock (Campbell) who is willing to steal the nerds homework. Still the jock has to be able to understand the homework he's stealing in this case. I know he game the meatballiest opening press conference of all time 4 years ago, but I think there's a decent chance he combines leadership and smarts really well. Not to say Detroit doesn't owe a ton of success to Johnson and Glenn and they wouldn't be hard to replace, but I wouldn't just assume Campbell can't either.
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I tend to agree. Also it's not like Glenn and Johnson was him going out and attracting known coordinators to prop him up. Is it possible that he struck lightening twice and got blindly lucky? Yea I guess it is, but it's entirely possible he's a meathead who's still intellectually curious enough to surround himself with smart people.
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Not at one point was that argued.
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Pace blowing a first (and a additional pick on Jenkins trade up) was a contributing factor the talent and resource defecit that any new GM faced coming in. The defecit wasn't anything too uncommon for incoming GMs though. Not much different than if it had been a year sooner. The first rounder and whatever Jenkins pick in that one year wasn't some multi year shifting thing than if they hadn't "lame ducked" it with him. Which really isn't really even clear was some last ditch effort of a lame duck GM trying to save his job. Because logically... Why would it? And reportedly George was very close to not making Pace a lame duck, up to the very end. Now if he has pulled off the Russ Wilson trade he reportedly wanted... But then we'd be arguing a counter factual / hypothetical.
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No you just really hate Fields lol
