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More high socks is always a good thing.... http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2008-03/36731965.jpg

1. Alex Rodriguez 2. Albert Pujols 3. Hanley Ramirez 4. Jose Reyes 5. Ryan Braun 6. David Wright 7. Chase Utley 8. Jimmy Rollins 9. Miguel Cabrera 10. Johan Santana 11. Matt Holliday 12. Ryan Howard 13. Grady Sizemore 14. Prince Fielder 15. Jake Peavy 16. Troy Tulowitzki 17. Victor Martinez 18. Carl Crawford 19. Alfonso Soriano 20. David Ortiz 21. Carlos Beltran 22. Brandon Webb 23. Vlad Guerrero 24. Ichiro 25. Derrek Lee 26. Russell Martin 27. Joe Mauer 28. Brandon Phillips 29. Brian Roberts 30. BJ Upton 31. Derek Jeter 32. Corey Hart 33. Josh Beckett 34. Manny Ramirez 35. Dan Haren 36. Robinson Cano 37. Justin Verlander 38. Erik Bedard 39. Aramis Ramirez 40. Cole Hamels 41. Larry Wayne "Chipper" Jones 42. Adam Dunn 43. Mark Teixeira 44. CC Sabathia 45. Carlos Lee 46. Lance Berkman 47. Roy Halladay 48. Carlos Zambrano 49. Scott Kazmir 50. Francisco Liriano 51. John Smoltz 52. John Lackey 53. Chris Young (the outfielder) 54. Curtis Granderson 55. Brian McCann 56. Ian Kinsler 57. Magglio Ordonez 58. Jorge Posad 59. Khalil Greene 60. Carlos Guillen 61. Garrett Atkins 62. Felix Hernandez 63. Aaron Rowand 64. Geovany Soto 65. Chris Young (the weirdly proportioned pitcher) 66. Roy Oswalt 67. Aaron Harang 68. Ryan Zimmerman 69. Carlos Pena 70. Joe Nathan 71. Matt Kemp 72. Francisco Rodriguez 73. Dan Uggla 74. Gary Sheffield 75. Jonathan Paplebon 76. Daisuke Matsuzaka 77. Hunter Pence 78. Tim Lincecum 79. Rich Hill 80. Nick Markakis 81. Rickie Weeks 82. Kosuke Fukudome 83. Kenji Johjima 84. Fausto Carmona 85. JJ Putz 86. Takashi Saito 87. Jose Valverde 88. Todd Helton 89. Javier Vazquez 90. Nick Swisher 91. James Shields 92. Miguel Tejada 93. Brad Hawpe 94. Hideki Matsui 95. Travis Hafner 96. Edgar Renteria 97. Alex Rios 98. JJ Hardy 99. Chone Figgins 100. Billy Wagner 101. Joba Chamberlain 102. A.J. Burnett- picking for IMB 103. Bobby Abreu 104. Shane Victorino 105. Mariano Rivera 106. Placido Polanco 107. Kevin Kouzmanoff 108. Jason Bay 109. Josh Hamilton 110. Brad Penny 111. Michael Young 112. Torii Hunter 113. Adrian Gonzalez 114. Matt Cain 115. Eric Byrnes (IMB) 116. Huston Street 117. Adrian Beltre 118. Howie Kendrick 119. Brett Myers 120. Andruw Jones 121. Justin Morneau 122. Bobby Jenks 123. Ben Sheets 124. John Maine 125. Matt Capps 126. Delmon Young 127. Pedro Martinez 128. Francisco Cordero 129. Rich Harden 130. JI....JIM THOME 131. Tim Hudson 132. Adam Wainwright 133. Paul Konerko 134. Kelly Johnson 135. Ted Lilly 136. Yovani Gallardo 137. Joakim Soria 138. Rafael Soriano 139. Yunel Escobar 140. BJ Ryan 141. Trevor Hoffman 142. Pat Burrell 143. Josh Fields 144. Chad Billingsley 145. Kerry Wood 146. Jeff Kent 147. Jermaine Dye 148. Jarrod Saltalamacchia 149. J.R. Towles 150. James Loney 151. Lastings Milledge 152. Willy Taveras 153. Eric Gagne 154. Adam LaRoche 155. Jeremy Hermida 156. Jason Varitek 157. Ken Griffey Jr. 158. Jeremy Accardo 159. Evan Longoria 160. Randy Johnson

I believe "once in a lifetime" was in reference to the possibility of actually building a dynasty from the ground up through your own farm system. But I could be wrong. It might just be poorly worded.

Go with Napoli.

All these arguments about lineup order are pretty much much ado about nothing. That said, get Theriot into the freaking bottom of the order, please.

It's not nearly as funny as not conceding the first part, IMO. Although both are pretty bad.

That's subscription content, Raisin. Summary?

In spring training. You, yourself, just expressed that it looks like Lou is considering this for more than just spring over in the baseball discussions thread about this. Please don't let this turn into another wrigley/dextermorgan pissing match.

L O L You really shouldn't make Aramis Fan look bad by putting such horrifically dumb words in his mouth.

LOL at people saying Derrek Lee started out slow last year. He did not hit a lot of HR, that is for damn sure, but his start was anything BUT slow.

And this is a ridiculous mischaracterization of what I wrote. Spring training matters. Getting in game shape matters. Getting your timing down, seeing pitches, stretching arms, the daily grind, all that stuff matters. The results don't matter. The results should not have any effect on decisions. It makes no difference whether Lee is hitting .500 right now or .100. I was going to post this.

PLEASE TRADE HIM TO NY... PLEASE

They probably should. They aren't going to be good for several years, wasting his best, and most cost effective years, and he's bound to be hurt by then anyway. Remember, Dusty Baker is "managing" in Cincy now. What does this have to do with anything? He was making a joke at the expense of Dusty's tendency to overuse and abuse young pitchers into injury.

There's your answer. Bench Lee. Start Ward. Problem solved.

On the plus side, though, 'Lix is going to achieve Pujols like superstardom this year.

I'm sorry if Hendry is held accountable for the players on the field, then I just don't get it. He's not the MANAGER. Now if Hendry doesn't do everything in his power to improve the holes on this team, then yes, I would him accountable. But to hold him accountable for the players on the field, is simply wrong. What on earth are you talking about? You're right. General managers shouldn't be held accountable for how their teams perform. Or not. If you spent $120 million on a baseball team and they don't win 80 games, you can and should be held accountable. I don't care if all the players hit 50 OPS points below their average or give up a run more than their career averages. The GM must be held responsible for that. Fire the manager too if you have to. That I will agree to. But to hold Hendry accountable for the players ON THE FIELD, and their play is totally unreasonable. This is ridiculous. How, on any planet, is that at all (much less "totally") unreasonable?

Post AS break 2007 he hit one every 16.13 AB's. That would come out to 37 HR in 600 AB's (34 in 550 AB's). That seems about right and about the best we could have expected, even if he hadn't injured his wrist (despite his monster 2005). We'll see if he continues at the pace he was at after the break. There is reason to believe he will. These numbers cast some doubt: .125/.167/.267 And I've got a feeling those right there comprise a good portion of what Lou is talking about. Lee needs to start showing he's prepared to start the season, and so far he hasn't. At all. While those numbers mean absolutely nothing to me, I wasn't really arguing or commenting on anything with regard to his ST performance this year.

I'm sorry if Hendry is held accountable for the players on the field, then I just don't get it. He's not the MANAGER. Now if Hendry doesn't do everything in his power to improve the holes on this team, then yes, I would him accountable. But to hold him accountable for the players on the field, is simply wrong. What on earth are you talking about? You're right. General managers shouldn't be held accountable for how their teams perform. Or not.

Let me say it again, as obviosuly the point was missed. Hendry has no control over how the players are used on the field. That job belongs to the manager (Piniella in this case). What Hendry has done is put together a very solid team, that has the potential to be a really good team. Now it is the job of Pineilla (NOT Hendry) to get the team to play well. If the players don't play to their potentials, or the manager doesn't get the players t play to their potential, makes the GM look bad, but in this case, it is unwarranted. Calling Hendry a "bad Gm" or "Hendry sucks" is simply not true. I know he has made some questionable moves, but he also made some good moves. The point wasn't missed. The point is just wrong. Hendry is ultimately accountable for the product on the field and the performance of said product. Hendry hired the managers. Hendry put the players on the field.

Post AS break 2007 he hit one every 16.13 AB's. That would come out to 37 HR in 600 AB's (34 in 550 AB's). That seems about right and about the best we could have expected, even if he hadn't injured his wrist (despite his monster 2005). We'll see if he continues at the pace he was at after the break. There is reason to believe he will.

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I guess there's no point in me commenting on the Lee never getting his power stroke back thing since like 5 other people have, but I was gonna.

1. Alex Rodriguez 2. Albert Pujols 3. Hanley Ramirez 4. Jose Reyes 5. Ryan Braun 6. David Wright 7. Chase Utley 8. Jimmy Rollins 9. Miguel Cabrera 10. Johan Santana 11. Matt Holliday 12. Ryan Howard 13. Grady Sizemore 14. Prince Fielder 15. Jake Peavy 16. Troy Tulowitzki 17. Victor Martinez 18. Carl Crawford 19. Alfonso Soriano 20. David Ortiz 21. Carlos Beltran 22. Brandon Webb 23. Vlad Guerrero 24. Ichiro 25. Derrek Lee 26. Russell Martin 27. Joe Mauer 28. Brandon Phillips 29. Brian Roberts 30. BJ Upton 31. Derek Jeter 32. Corey Hart 33. Josh Beckett 34. Manny Ramirez 35. Dan Haren 36. Robinson Cano 37. Justin Verlander 38. Erik Bedard 39. Aramis Ramirez 40. Cole Hamels 41. Larry Wayne "Chipper" Jones 42. Adam Dunn 43. Mark Teixeira 44. CC Sabathia 45. Carlos Lee 46. Lance Berkman 47. Roy Halladay 48. Carlos Zambrano 49. Scott Kazmir 50. Francisco Liriano 51. John Smoltz 52. John Lackey 53. Chris Young (the outfielder) 54. Curtis Granderson 55. Brian McCann 56. Ian Kinsler 57. Magglio Ordonez 58. Jorge Posad 59. Khalil Greene 60. Carlos Guillen 61. Garrett Atkins 62. Felix Hernandez 63. Aaron Rowand 64. Geovany Soto 65. Chris Young (the weirdly proportioned pitcher) 66. Roy Oswalt 67. Aaron Harang 68. Ryan Zimmerman 69. Carlos Pena 70. Joe Nathan 71. Matt Kemp 72. Francisco Rodriguez 73. Dan Uggla 74. Gary Sheffield 75. Jonathan Paplebon 76. Daisuke Matsuzaka 77. Hunter Pence 78. Tim Lincecum 79. Rich Hill 80. Nick Markakis 81. Rickie Weeks 82. Kosuke Fukudome 83. Kenji Johjima 84. Fausto Carmona 85. JJ Putz 86. Takashi Saito 87. Jose Valverde 88. Todd Helton 89. Javier Vazquez 90. Nick Swisher 91. James Shields 92. Miguel Tejada 93. Brad Hawpe 94. Hideki Matsui 95. Travis Hafner 96. Edgar Renteria 97. Alex Rios 98. JJ Hardy 99. Chone Figgins 100. Billy Wagner 101. Joba Chamberlain 102. A.J. Burnett- picking for IMB 103. Bobby Abreu 104. Shane Victorino 105. Mariano Rivera 106. Placido Polanco 107. Kevin Kouzmanoff 108. Jason Bay 109. Josh Hamilton 110. Brad Penny 111. Michael Young 112. Torii Hunter 113. Adrian Gonzalez 114. Matt Cain 115. Eric Byrnes (IMB) 116. Huston Street 117. Adrian Beltre 118. Howie Kendrick 119. Brett Myers 120. Andruw Jones 121. Justin Morneau 122. Bobby Jenks 123. Ben Sheets 124. John Maine 125. Matt Capps 126. Delmon Young 127. Pedro Martinez 128. Francisco Cordero 129. Rich Harden 130. JI....JIM THOME 131. Tim Hudson 132. Adam Wainwright 133. Paul Konerko 134. Kelly Johnson 135. Ted Lilly 136. Yovani Gallardo 137. Joakim Soria 138. Rafael Soriano 139. Yunel Escobar 140. BJ Ryan 141. Trevor Hoffman 142. Pat Burrell 143. Josh Fields 144. Chad Billingsley 145. Kerry Wood 146. Jeff Kent 147. Jermaine Dye 148. Jarrod Saltalamacchia 149. J.R. Towles 150. James Loney 151. Lastings Milledge 152. Willy Taveras 153. Eric Gagne

Not by any stretch of the imagination since 2005.

Felix is definitely wearing cups. Don't you see him readjust it during every freaking AB?