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  1. All everyone's saying is that it seems odd, given that we already have Hollandsworth and Grieve, and Gerut isn't better than either. I strongly disagree. I don't think you know much about Gerut. I've seen him play some in Cleveland when I lived in the area, and I've been looking hard at his numbers since the deal was announced. How is he better than those two. Both Holla and Gerut are decent OBP, mid to upper 700 OPS outfielders that are decent defenders. How is he better than Hollandsworth.
  2. If Cincy desired Gerut in a trade, Cleveland likely would have shipped him off to Cincy by now for Joe Randa, who they are rumored to be ga-ga for. Shapiro's no dummy though. He knows that Dubois is better for his team in the long run, and maybe short term too.
  3. His OBP is pretty good, but his power has been going away since his good 2003. 2003: .494 SLG, .215 IsoP 2004: .405 SLG, .153 IsoP 2005: .377 SLG, .102 IsoP
  4. Byrnes? A Gerut/Byrnes platoon would be good, yet we would probably overpay for what it would provide.
  5. It's really hard for me to see how Gerut isn't just another incarnation of Hollandsworth.
  6. Pierre's SB % is a huge improvement over Hairston. 20 more SB's and still CS less than Hairston. That is 20 more singles or walks that were in essence doubles. Pierre has much better range than Hairston. You are right Pierre doesn't have a great arm, but he is hardly lacking range. Looking at their career numbers to say that Hairston is comparable to Pierre is a joke. Once again, nothing that you said backs up your point. First of all, it has been established that through the entirety of their careers, Pierre has been better than Hairston. I don't think anyone is disputing that. Hopefully that will be the last of the comparison of their career numbers. Now, when looking at their numbers over the past two years, their most recent trend over a good sized sample, their numbers have been pretty comparable. Is the slight difference between their numbers over their most recent trend worth the players it will take to get Pierre, especially when Hairston has been better than Pierre on the season? The difference between the two isn't worth the cost, that's the argument
  7. FWIW, Pierre has an OPS of .746 over the last year and a half (.355/.391). Hairston has an OPS of .760 (.365/.395). Those steals aren't worth the player(s) req'd to get him or the salary Pierre will command. Pierre is a career .307 hitter with a .356 OBP and Walks more than he SO's. Hairston is a career .262 hitter with a .335 OBP with more SO's than Walks. Pierre is gold glove caliber. Hairston is a back up 2B, who is playing OF. I like Hairston too, but there really is no comparison. I think there is quite a comparison. Pierre is no gold glove CF. Where is OPS in your discussion? OPS? Sorry, but I don't think your leadoff hitters SLG % matters. If you want a homerun hitter at leadoff, fine. But most people would prefer someone who can get on base. Slugging does not equal home runs. It's the ability to get past first base on your own, which is essential to scoring runs consistently. Given Pierre's low SLG and poor SB%, that makes him less valuable as a leadoff hitter.
  8. BP has Pierre being well below average defensively the past two years. 11 runs below average in '03, and 7 runs below average in '04.
  9. Hollandsworth AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 07/09 - 07/17 13 2 3 0 0 0 3 0 2 2 0.231 0.333 0.231 0.564 :shock: Why pick the 7/9 - 7/17 time period? If you use all of July his BA is .321, OBP is 394, SLG is .571 against RH pitching. That seems pretty good to me. Becuase that's when he turned cold. Why do you insist on tying all trends to the calendar month ?? Players don't get hot and cold on a monthly schedule, ya know. Hollandsworth AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 07/01 - 07/08 22 2 8 2 0 2 16 4 2 2 0.364 0.400 0.727 1.127 07/09 - 07/17 13 2 3 0 0 0 3 0 2 2 0.231 0.333 0.231 0.564 07/01 - 07/17 35 4 11 2 0 2 19 4 4 4 0.314 0.375 0.543 0.918 Most people use months because it's the most focused, yet easy to locate/calculate split to find. Not all of us have your killer database, although we'd love it if you shared. :wink:
  10. He has a database, not sure how he maintains it.
  11. I have a new laptop, but no, I haven't had any problems.
  12. Looked to me like he tried to come inside on Ramirez in his second AB, and Ramirez put it in the seats. Same thing with Hairston(!) but it was just foul. His fastball just wasn't hard enough to get inside.
  13. Murton must've thought that hop was going to take the ball over Claussen.
  14. Frese's line at AAA: .276/.344/.460/.804 in close to 100 PA's.
  15. I agree that he's probably worth a look in the NL but the idea that a team has to give up a prospect to get him is silly unless the team makes a deal with the White Sox before he becomes a FA in 10 days. At this point, teams have to pay the remainder of his contract plus the Sox will ask for something in return. In 10 days, he can be yours at a bargin basement price. I'm pretty sure in 10 days he gets sent to AAA if he isn't dealt. Obviously you want him as cheap as possible in cash and players. No, if there are no takers, in 10 days he gets to decide if he will accept a minor league assignment or become a free agent and find his own gig (like Joe Borowski). That's right, I forgot he had a choice. My bad.
  16. I agree that he's probably worth a look in the NL but the idea that a team has to give up a prospect to get him is silly unless the team makes a deal with the White Sox before he becomes a FA in 10 days. At this point, teams have to pay the remainder of his contract plus the Sox will ask for something in return. In 10 days, he can be yours at a bargin basement price. I'm pretty sure in 10 days he gets sent to AAA if he isn't dealt. Obviously you want him as cheap as possible in cash and players.
  17. Litle known fact: Patterson had better RC numbers than Pierre last year, despite Pierre having a 50 point edge in OBP. SLG matters.
  18. Okay, so how long til Dunn gets dealt? Over/under: 1 week
  19. I'd seriously consider going after him. It seems to be apparent that once teams get used to his slow stuff that they are able to hammer him. Having not seen him in the NL may be able to help us out down the stretch. After the season, trade him while his value is high. If he's no good, then you just non-tender him. I wouldn't give up a very good prospect for him, but if you were comfortable that a decently regarded player wasn't going to pan out, do the deal.
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