No. We should NOT be bad for that long. But, you overestimate our talent level, even in those areas. This team still needs a LOT of help. You think they're not tanking this year, how many wins do you see? depends on how our QB plays and who it is. [highlight=yellow]as I've said before, teams like Denver[/highlight] and Minnesota, teams without holes on defense, and teams like Houston, with monsters everywhere on defense, [highlight=yellow]still miss the playoffs or get destroyed once they get there[/highlight]. they have put meticulous planning into their supporting players, and Houston and Minnesota actually gave up a ton for lackluster quarterbacks in a panic. They thought that their time had come, and that they just needed satisfactory QBs in order to waltz into the playoffs and blow teams away with their supporting cast. the best team planning, the most meticulous attention to detail when constructing a roster, falls apart if you don't have a QB to lead them. And the Packers have been successful with little more than Aaron Rodgers and a couple players here and there. your holes aren't as gaping if you have the important position covered. Didn't Denver make two super bowls in a row and win one of them when they had the crippled, crumbling zombie version of Peyton Manning as QB? Isn't Drew Brees one of the all-time passers (going by stats, at least) and hasn't done squat in recent years? This isn't as black and white as you like to portray.