I don't know if I can. Are there really any other major universities that have the kind of isolation that PSU does? What do you mean? PSU isn't close to the only university sitting well away from civilization. Well, that's part of it, but I was more referring to their tendency to not bring in outsiders. From what I've read, most everybody on campus has some sort of ties to the school, from sports personnel to professors. It just sounds like in general there's really a lot of groupthink being fostered because there's not any (or very little) outside influence in any part of the institution. I could easily see schools like Iowa, Wisconsin, a lot SEC schools, West Virginia, any school where football is king, acting in a similar manner. Me too. I see what you're saying mul, but I think this type of reaction would happen elsewhere too. Though I admit it's pretty tough to gage because (hopefully) this is a pretty rare event.