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I heard Stoney's comments too and was like....."eeeh?" He went through Roberts' stats, said they were all good, then went on to suggest if we were going to "give up the entire farm system" it should be for Bedard, not Roberts. OK, I haven't heard a trade rumor yet that involved giving up our entire farm system, or even close really.

[ 2498 posts ] 100 pages. 100/2500, now there's a lot of hullabaloo about nuttin' edit: I was the one to push it to 2500! Now I feel special :mrgreen:

That scares the crap out of me. If the deal goes through we NEED to sign Hernandez and that still is not the best case senario. That's what I've been trying to say. It's frightening what the back of our rotation might become if Marshall + Gallagher are dealt and no viable replacement is signed.

That sums up this thread pretty well.

That was my attempt at humor. I can see that it didn't work.

Nah, we haven't seen that at all. :wink: Recent development: they were wrong again.

It's freakout time. Why? You seriously think Hendry would do that just for Roberts? Come on... It's not. Just the fact that MacPhail even mentioned Hill is enough to freak me out. How dare he!

It's freakout time. I think I just had a heart attack. This can't be happening.

Eh, I'm sure they have sources but a message board is a message board. People will say things on a mb that they would take more time to verify if their byline was sitting next to it in a newspaper. Full of it? Alright, not full of it. "Willing to be a little more loose with their info given the forum" is how I would attempt to describe it.

I don't want to see it, but... DeRosa at 2B, deal for SS Uribe I don't think they feel a need to change the shortstop situation. Me either. I think they envision Theriot = Eckstein, and they like that very much.

The guy didn't really say anything of interest. IMO, he sounded like he was afraid to offend some of the O's fans by speculating on the trade. Either he doesn't know or he was keeping his true feelings close to the vest; at one point he admitted that the O's have been shopping Roberts for a position player(s) and pitching then he says he thinks it's "70%" that he doesn't get traded. Which is it? So he refused to spout off a tirade of rumor and innuendo and present it as if he has "inside information" so everyone should just believe him? There's a novel concept.

Nah, after page 100 the real freak out begins.

Alright, now I'm starting to get scared. Hendry, you better not be screwing us royally again.

=D> Too funny. Always good to hear the other side of the story. They aren't getting Hill and Pie though. I don't think Hendry is *that* stupid.

This is exactly how I feel about it. Wait it out and see. If we do open up the season with a rotation of Z, Lilly, Hill, Marquis, Dempster, then I'm disappointed. There's still plenty of time to change that, though. Hey, we've been waiting it out for 100 years, bud 8-)

I think Gallagher goes in any deal..he's the centerpiece of it all. Orioles fans think that at most a name might be wrong. Other than that, they believe that MacPhail is just bluffing saying that the deal isn't official, which of course it's not. But they believe it is complete. The administrator of the site has checked with 2 different of his own sources and confirmed the deal (both sources said 100%) and he apparently doesn't post anything unless he's completely sure he won't be wrong, unlike the other insiders. Alright, so his neck is on the line. I really don't care either way, I hope this thing just ends one way or the other now.

Cedeno's been to the majors more than once, and has been less than impressive each time. I'm not so concerned with giving him up.

Alright, fair enough. If this is true, really the biggest problem I had was giving up what I considered our best option for #5 starter in Marshall. I know Gallagher is liked in these circles, but he's still firmly a prospect. I really feel Marshall would be solid @ the 5. That said though, it's pretty clear with the Dempster announcement earlier in the offseason that the Cubs did not necessarily agree with that position, since they were set to slot Dempster in the rotation, which would presumably have left Marshall in the BP or @ Iowa. So I guess I'm left wondering why the Cubs soured on Marshall, when he seemed to me to be the one guy who did a halfway decent job in the role last year.

Nightmare. Good Lord just kill me, we lost to the frakkin' Knicks at home.

That is true. None of the Orioles insiders have said today. One of them said soon, one of them said a few days, and one of them said not soon (and clarified that he didn't mean hours but more like days). All of them agreed that the deal was Marshall, Gallagher, Cedeno...and a couple of them said that paperwork had been exchanged. That doesn't mean the deal is going to happen, but these facts remain. 1) There are a lot more posters on there then there is on NSBB (check out how many people they have vote on polls-a poll started today had 257 votes, and that's not unusual). 2) These posters give a great deal of respect to these insiders, and they have been doing so for years. The level of respect on there is around the same that people on here give to Bruce. Now some of us could search through and find every deal that these insiders have gotten completely right beforehand. Simple logic tells us though that they have sources. If they didn't, they would have been discredited years ago by the large community over there. Imagine if we had a person come on here labeled as an insider. If they didn't get things right, would we continue to listen to him? Yet they hang on every single word their insiders say. The insiders have had to give them information that has made them justify that faith. Obviously of course their sources are sometimes mistaken, or sometimes things change before they become official. This deal could still fall through. I have every belief it is likely (more than 70 percent) to happen within the next week though because of what the insiders say, and especially now that they are telling a very consistent story. There was at least one of them who had the deal happening before Christmas. One of them already had his chain yanked -- badly and publicly. Like I said, it's still a message board, still open to the usual nonsense of message boards.

There's really nothing solid about this deal other than being mentioned a couple times as a "good fit" for the Cubs or a "likely destination." I'm sorry, but I don't care who people think these orioles dugout guys are, bulletin board rumors will always be very shaky. Maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't. But please at least consider that these orioles fans might not have any clue what they are talking about.

how is this hit not a personal foul? since when can you leave your feet to tackle the QB? You aren't seriously asking that question, are you? As far as I know, defensive players can leave their feet or even crawl when trying to sack the QB if there isn't helmet to helmet contact, a facemask infraction, or such... It's borderline. The bicep is hitting the head, but I don't think it was an intentional blow to the head. I'm OK with the no call there. It's not like it really makes any difference. OSU just got beat, plain and simple. They started off good, but couldn't sustain the effort.

I love how if the deal doesn't get done by 50 pages, we devolve into bickering at each other. :mrgreen:

I view him as well-suited for that #5 start, at least for a couple years. I don't think many teams can be tossing #5 starters who have had some success in the majors around like candy, or they risk the wrath of the baseball gods. Namely -- Dempster sucking bones.

No. No it has not been the one glaring need. Leadoff hitter is not a position, it's just a spot in the order that any of the 8 position players can fill. This team's most glaring need for a very long time has been walks, and players who are both willing and capable of taking them. A little more generally, they've lacked OBP. And to the extent that a new hitter can significantly improve the OBP by replacing somebody who is already here, that player would have considerable value to the Cubs. Yeah, I'm not so sure the "prototypical leadoff hitter" is this holy grail of making a World Series, either. Plenty of teams have done it without one. I'm more concerned with the overall OBP now -- and I'm still leery that Roberts is going to suffer a drop in production. I wouldn't mind getting the guy, but the back of our rotation is suddenly going to look mighty shaky. And wasn't SP a big advantage that eventually lifted us over the Crew last year?