That's fair on the Jolee thing - but you'll notice, I didn't quote you on that originally. You said we didn't need to bring that up, and I explained why I did. So I wasn't calling you out specifically.
I will specifically address the last line because Cubs fans enjoy having their cake and eating it too when it comes to "aggressive enough" on Hoyer. Now, I'm not saying you particularly, but Cubs fans have lamented Hoyer all offseason for trying to save his butt, for trading Parades and Smith for just one year of Tucker. For saying that the Cubs aren't good enough for an all-in move. At the same time, some of these same people, and others, lament him for being not-aggressive enough. It can't be both.
I posted this in another thread, but I'll continue it here, I don't think there was some $200 line, the Cubs tried to spend that money. That's not a plus, it's just a fact. They did. I think the plan with the Bellinger trade was two fold:
1. Trade Bellinger, a player who wasn't going to start at any specific position (RF, CF, LF, 1b or DH), clear $20m to use on players who would more readily contribute.
2. Make one more impact move.,
The Cubs accomplished part 1. They traded Bellinger. They proceeded to add Turner, Braiser, Berti, Pressley and others. These will be players who will contribute to the team in various, and likely, positive ways. Part 2 is where they missed. I don't think for a lack of effort (they had a real good offer in on Scott, Matt's consistently reported the Cubs interest in Cease, and then there was the week of Bregman rumors).
The Cubs don't win games based on effort to improve, surely, though, also don't think the roster is currently, overly flawed or an issue. I do think they could probably use another SP, though with Brown over Rea, the team is prioritizing upside over stability and it's probably a better rotation than we expected. They could probably use one more high leverage reliever, but outside of Scott, there really wasn't a ton available who was so good you couldn't miss on. And maybe the amount of youth (Shaw, PCA, Amaya, Busch and a reliance on prospects as "next up") hinder the offense.
If you want a positive it's that with this route the Cubs have a bit more flexibility. Let's say Brown takes that fifth spot and runs with it - a possible outcome for Brown for sure. Then maybe you gain more clarity and the rotation isn't some glaring spot that needed a Luzardo trade and now those resources can be used to fix elsewhere. Or maybe Brown is good to go for half a year as a starter, and you can trade for Cease much more cheaply as you move him to the pen to limit innings later. Or maybe the offense and the youth show stability and contribution, and you feel far more comfortable trading Kevin Alcantara or Owen Caissie than you did before in a bigger move. There's inherent risk involved, and I'm not saying it's the path I'd have walked, but my personal preference isn't always right, and I think there's some merit and logic.
On the overall, I think we agree that the Cubs as an org probably don't put enough money into the baseball side of things. Hoyer's a weird one to evaluate. I think most of what he does has a pretty consistent, and obvious logic behind it. Individually, he rarely makes a bad move - his biggest blunders on a one-on-one basis have been essentially "he gave Mancini two years instead of one" or something like that. I think he's put together a good enough roster in 2025, but I think we also agree there's some variance there that could probably be cut out some.