Outshined_One

Thinking on it, I'd be okay with it. The future 1st would be great since there's no guarantee Carolina will be good next year, and those 2nd round picks would be great in my "trade back into the 1st" scenario. I want a ransom, but if that's what the market is, so be it.

I'm warming up to the idea of the Bears trading down from 1, taking a DL in the Top 10, and then trading back up into the 20s from the top of the 2nd round (assuming they get 36 or 39 or 40, or some combination of those picks) to nab someone like JSN. I'm not sold on him as a Top 10 guy, but somewhere like 25? Absolutely.

Maybe I'm greedy, but if the Bears are trading from 4 to 9, I'd be really disappointed if they didn't pick up #40 from Carolina. As mentioned previously in the thread, I'm still getting up to speed on the non-Carter/Anderson DL prospects, but the talking heads seem to be all over the map with Van Ness (for better and for worse), and he's generally seen as an upside pick rather than an immediate impact guy. I'm intrigued, but not necessarily excited at the prospect of getting him at 9.

I admittedly haven't paid much attention to the DL guys behind Carter and Anderson, but, given today's news about Carter, how does everyone feel about someone like Tyree Wilson or Myles Murphy at 4 (assuming a trade down and Anderson off the board)? Any other names worth knowing about who could find their way into the Top 5?

Welp.

When this board started, CT was like 12. Roast was younger.

Amateur Baseball is used to discuss two things: (1) MLB Draft-related items; and (2) College Baseball. It's not as active as it used to be for #2, but it made sense to have a place to discuss things like the College World Series, the Cape Cod League, etc. since we had a number of posters who would actively follow college baseball teams/players, but not necessarily contribute to draft discussions. If I remember correctly, Rants came about as an off-shoot to Social because a number of threads were getting hijacked into off-topic discussions in Social, so it gave a place for people to vent and blow off steam while keeping other threads in Social on-topic.

I once started a thread where anyone who posted in it would get banned. That was a fun week.

I'll echo this consideration. This is an insular forum, to the point where most of our regular posters have been here for 15-20 years. On the one hand, that's great for loyalty/commitment/content, but, on the other hand, you need eyes on the product. You're not jumping into a situation with thousands of active unique users, and that means you are going to need to attract new people to the forum. You will need to make hard decisions in order to do that, and I can guarantee that at least some of those decisions will anger your existing user base. It's awesome that you did this with another website, but I think sharing your plan/vision for the site beyond general statements will go a long way here.

Every board has its running jokes, please explain this one to the new guy. Imagine this GIF in human form: He was entertaining, but also a complete PITA.

Seriously though, welcome!

White and nerdy is a culture I'm pretty sure most everyone who posts here is either a lawyer or a journalist. So yeah, good call.

In other news, water is wet.

It's nice to dream, though. I'd seriously consider pulling the trigger if they just offered 2 and their second round pick.

Is it weird that I'm favoring a trade with the Raiders more than a trade with the Colts at this point? I get the sense that the Raiders will be desperate to make a splash at QB after the whole Carr debacle, that they are more likely to be bad over the next two years than the Colts, that the team is grossly mismanaged, and that the draft has enough depth along the lines that the Bears could still grab a high quality guy at 7. We probably won't see a trade for at least another month or so, but it's fun to mull these things over.

Apparently, nothing. I don't know if I'd be more disappointed if they had traded for anyone or traded anyone away. This season has been a slog and the lack of activity at the deadline doesn't help...

Scott Rolen to the HOF. I'd tried to talk myself into think A-Ram was better, but yeah, I can't argue with it. I'm still allowed to be annoyed it didn't take him as long as Santo to get in, though.

uhh isn't the top of this draft supposed to be really heavy on defensive talent My impression is there is a lot of quality depth at the top of the draft on the DL, with Anderson and Carter leading the way, but I'm not as sure how Anderson and Carter stack up compared to recent guys like Bosa and Chase Young. WrigleyField22 mentioned neither of them stack up to Myles Garrett, and I think that's accurate, although you can make a really good argument Garrett's the best DL prospect to come out in the last decade. There are some concerns with Anderson's size and speed, which might limit his usefulness when he's not rushing the passer, and Carter has some questions about his technique and health. The Combine will help tell the tale, and I think the Bears' D would improve measurably with either, but I don't think the Bears *have* to walk away from this draft with either guy.

That description fit the bill for a number of Cubs pitchers from the 00s to 10s, namely Marmol, Farnsworth, Samardzija, Zambrano, and Clement. The problem was, those guys all had a tendency to air it out in big moments rather than trust their natural movement.

Will Anderson or Jalen Carter won't save this team.

How in the blue hell does the Dodgers' deal come remotely close to the Cubs' deal value-wise? Also, if this were a deal for 2-3 years of Devers, it'd be worth some consideration (although I'd ultimately be against it). But a single season? Hard pass.

I haven’t kept up but NFL offense being down was the talk of early season. Breece Hall @ RB was looking like a runaway ORoY before blowing out his knee. All the division leaders but Vikings play defense just glancing at their PF/PA

Hypothetically speaking, if the Cubs lose out on Swanson, what should their next steps be? On the one hand, I don't want them to over-correct. The idea of trading assets for Devers and/or Ohtani is appealing in a two-year window sense, but that would also leave the cupboard bare and would basically be an all-in move for 2023 and 2024. However, I don't want to re-live the Lou Piniella years, where the team basically peaked for a year and then fell off a cliff. I want sustained success. Guys like Trea Turner and Correa made sense on that front since they would (presumably) be good for multiple years under team control. Swanson also makes sense on that front, albeit to a lesser extent. On the other hand, I also don't want them to stand pat and go into this year expecting a repeat of 2015. I like the core of this current team, and I like the Taillon and Bellinger acquisitions, but we're nowhere near the level of talent that was present in 2015. This team needs help, and as-is they have an outside shot at one of the Wild Card slots. They'd be setting themselves up for failure (again) in the 2023-24 offseason. The notion that they should make smaller moves around the margins hoping for further improvement in 2023 just comes across as disappointing. It really sucks, because I have trouble seeing realistic alternative options if Swanson isn't signed.

See also: Fowler, Dexter

I now want this team to lose so badly that it counts as two losses. This is comical.