What always amused me about Joe is that he had such contempt for stats like OBP and just the concept of building teams who walked a lot, so you'd think he was a high average/low OBP type of guy, but the dude led the league in walks and OBP 4 different times in his career so he certainly had the mentality he claimed to despise. He was almost the exact prototype of the type of hitter most of the SABR aware FOs were looking for circa 2000-2008