UMFan83

your kidding right? I wasn't kidding, but I am prone to hyperbole. Still in my top 5 though. Man, its funny how different people take different games. This game didn't hurt me too much because I kinda saw this coming. The way the offense was hitting, it seemed all too unlikely that we'd score any runs. Anyways I can think of 5 worse losses in my mind, 10 probably. 4/10 vs. Houston - Home opener spoiled by Adam Everett's GW HR 4/13 vs. Cincinnati - Cubs take a 5-0 lead with Z on the hill when he implodes and gives up 6 runs in the 5th. Neither team scores the rest of the way. 4/17 vs. San Diego - Cubs lose in the 14th as the Cubs have several opportunities to score and don't. Pie throws out a runner at the plate in extras, but eventually the Padres score and win 4/22 vs. St Louis - Cubs tie the game on a miraculous 2 run single by DeRosa in the 9th with 2 outs and 2 strikes and then Dempster gives up a 3 run bomb to Pujols 5/12 vs. Philly - Cubs come back from 5-1 deficit with 6 in the 7th to take a 7-5 lead. The Cubs pen gives up 6 in return and the Cubs lose 11-7 5/17 vs. Mets - Cubs have a 5-1 lead entering the 9th and Dempster comes on just to get some extra practice, but gives up 5 runs and the Cubs lose. 5/25 vs. LA Dodgers - Cubs come back from a 5-0 defecit to take an 8-5 lead with 7 runs in the 7th. But then the bullpen implodes and gives up 4 runs in the 8th for a loss. 6/10 vs. Braves - Cubs, with Ted Lilly ejected in the 1st inning claw theirselves into a 4-2 lead. Dempster gives up 3 runs in the 8th and the Cubs lose. 6/12 vs. Mariners - Cubs tie up the game 3-3 in the 8th, and have the bases loaded with 0 outs and don't score. Mariners score 2 in the 13th and the Cubs lose. I'm also leaving out several one run losses that the bullpen gave up late leads in. Sorry, I'm not picking on you, I just kinda got off on a side tangent and wanted to figure out how many painful losses we've had.

your kidding right?

Hah, if he doesn't jump, thats probably an out and possibly a double play

I don't think we are going to score in this game. My prediction is that Lou rides Z too long and he eventually throws a meatball. Cubs lose 2-0

Webgem!!

http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=mlb&id=sdg&tid=982363&lid=10 :lol:

NICE JOB Z!!

Can someone post when the inevitable youtube clip is up. I missed it, I left for 10 minutes and missed it!

Honestly, I'm pretty content with Soriano, Pie, and Floyd most days. with DeRosa, Fontenot and Theriot taking turns playing SS and 2B

Whats the PC looking like? Can he pitch a CG to make up for his last start?

I agree. They should be asking the tough questions. :lol:

Fontenot had solid PECOTA numbers coming into this year... as for the "legitimate starter FA signees", Wells sucked last year and he sucks this year. The only surprise was that he didn't turn into Carpenter (yet). By legitimate I meant that they are real starters instead of converted bullpen arms. As for Fontenot, we all had high hopes for him, but he didn't seem to be anywhere in the Cubs plans.

Are we the new Cardinals? Bringing up minor league players that are projected to make only a minimal impact in the bigs and they flourish, starting pitchers with mediocre career numbers turn out to flourish on the Cubs. Meanwhile, all the Cardinals players are getting injured, their rotation is made up of converted bullpen people, and their worst pitchers are the legitimate starter FA signees that they've brought in

Yup, today's game finally changed me for good. RF is for dumb touristy/yuppie fans.

Not enough work lately?

That actually looks like a moderate, certainly not easy, schedule: Padres - Best pitching staff in the league, even if we miss Peavy, best record in the NL and has owned us in recent past. (My prediction: 1 of 3) Rangers - Just beat our division leaders 2 of 3, still have a decent offense, Sammy will be inspired, and our strength is pitching, which goes to die in Texas (2 of 3) White Sox - Like you said, throw the records out, I have a bad feeling about this series (1 of 3) Colorado - Certainly not an easy team like you seem to be suggesting but still (2 of 3) Nationals - OK they are pretty bad (2 of 3) Pirates - Certainly not pushovers, and have good pitching (1 of 3..just a gut feeling) the 29-37 NL East Nats are pretty bad, but the 28-38 NL Central Bucs are no pushovers. Sosa inspiration. "bad feeling" about the White Sox. gut feelings. holy negative subjective analysis batman. OK, I'll admit that the Nats record suprises me. We handled them quite easily. But the Pirates aren't a terrible team, and their lefties Gorzelanny and Duke (who sucks unless he plays the Cubs) will trouble us. And yes, bad feelings and gut feelings, so what? My opinion. The basic gist is there isn't a huge talent disparity in the league, and that the schedule the Cubs face is certainly not easy.

How did this really kill you ?? It happened 12 years before you were born !!! :wink: I shared the following story with Milt Pappas when I met him some years ago. I was driving north on I-94 (this was about 3 years after Milt's no hitter) from Chicago to Milwaukee in a tractor/trailer when I came upon a big black Lincoln Continental that was being driven by some guy that weighed at least 350 pounds and had a Wisconsin tag that read "NL UMP". As I passed that car, knowing that Bruce Froemming was a native of Milwaukee, it took every ounce of restraint that I had at my command to keep from suddenly changing lanes to the right. To this day, Pappas can't say the name Froemming without his lips curling into a sneer !! The sooner Froemming retires, the better off the world will be. 11 years but point taken!

Correct me if I'm wrong E/NE = Blowing out to center E = Blowing out to right NE = Blowing out to left W/SW = Blowing in from center W = Blowing in from right SW = Blowing in from left

Ahh yes, for the rights to lose to me in the next round!

This guy was a huuuuuuge Cub tormentor in his career. I, for one, applaud his decision to get the heck out of the game and leave the Cubs alone. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6924504 Everyone knows about his part in the recent Lou Piniella dirt kicking tirade, and some people remember his calling Kenny Lofton's catch a "trap", scoring the only Braves run in Game 5 of the 2003 NLDS. The one that really killed me was the 1972 game where Milt Pappas' perfect game was ruined by a borderline call being called a ball with 2 outs in the 9th. The next batter grounded out weakly, and the no-hitter was preserved.

That actually looks like a moderate, certainly not easy, schedule: Padres - Best pitching staff in the league, even if we miss Peavy, best record in the NL and has owned us in recent past. (My prediction: 1 of 3) Rangers - Just beat our division leaders 2 of 3, still have a decent offense, Sammy will be inspired, and our strength is pitching, which goes to die in Texas (2 of 3) White Sox - Like you said, throw the records out, I have a bad feeling about this series (1 of 3) Colorado - Certainly not an easy team like you seem to be suggesting but still (2 of 3) Nationals - OK they are pretty bad (2 of 3) Pirates - Certainly not pushovers, and have good pitching (1 of 3..just a gut feeling)

If you think that's bad, Juan Encarnacion was batting clean up the day before. Yet, as mentioned in another thread, people STILL PITCH TO PUJOLS!!! WHY?!?!?! Probably because they are usually up by so many runs, it just doesn't matter anymore.

The prime time to hate the Yankees was like 2002-2005. That is when they signed or traded for just about every big name they could come up with, Sheffield, Giambi, ARod, Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano, Randy Johnson, Johnny Damon. Since then they have started to develop some of their own talent, have cut back on the spending and started to realize that just signing every high priced talent wouldn't be enough. But the bottom line is that they still have the highest payroll by like $80 million, they are completely overexposed by ESPN and the national media, and they still have many players that people simply love to hate, whether it be steroid boy (Giambi), Mr. 250 million/slappy/metro (ARod), and traitor (Damon). So for that and the fact that they are one of the most successful teams in American sports history, they will be hated for some time.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/04003E36A8E97144 Apparently they have pairs of seats available in the UD (may be obstructed). But still for $34 face value they are worth posting about for Cubs fans. Just figured at least a couple of people that assumed that it would be too expensive to go would find this info beneficial.

He was pretty dominant the first 5 innings of the game, he just fell apart after that error in the 6th