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It infuriates me that the Rangers copied the D style that the Devils used to get bitched at for using. Hope the Devils treat them like they did the Flyers the rest of this series. Little over a minute left tonight....little over 30 seconds...awesome game to this point.
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Chyea I bet he'll be making opponents Sori soon enough! Hasn't he picked up a few key hits lately?
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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 5-16-12
PriortoTheoIhadWood replied to Outshined_One's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
What's Micah Gibbs doing in exst? Candelario hit a 3B (2-3 on the day) and drove in 3. -
TBH Barnes IIRC impressed the least of these guys physically, but he's been a really good performer in college. He's a fringe defender as a CF, and looks like a corner guy (probably LF?).
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Hm, first I've heard of 30+ HR potential for Shaffer, but I can buy me overrating the crap out of Vitters. Looking for some thoughts on some players here... Barrett Barnes CF/OF Texas Tech Tyler Naquin RF/OF A&M Sam Stafford LHP Texas Drew Verhagen RHP Vanderbilt - Big (6'6" 225) pen arm from Vanderbilt Buck Farmer LHP Georgia Tech Jameis Winston OF Alabama HS DJ Baxendale RHP Arkansas Any DJ LeMahieu clones out there? There's a kid from Kansas that I like, but think he's in next year's draft not this year.
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Well relative to this mediocrity heap of a draft he might be, but yes there has been talk that he might be overrated on the internet. I've read things like "well a solid average 3B is a good player" in connection with Shaffer. I think he's a likeable talent who falls firmly into the "not at 6" category. No matter the quality of this draft, if Vitters was eligible, I can't imagine he'd be a top 5 round pick. Shaffer projects to hit for more power than Vitters does. Shaffer has a far better idea what to do at the plate with far better discipline (50/44 BB/K this year). He has similar questions about what position he'll play. Shaffer would have been a first rounder last year. More mature and better plate discipline are two big aids. Vitters' as his power stands now, sure. Not sure about him last year, but not crazy to think he could edge his way into the last few picks there where Gilmartin, Panik, and Martin went. Possibly I overrate Vitters' ceiling, but I'm basically thinking either guy could be a 3B who hits in the .270s with maybe 20 HR power and doubles while playing average D there.
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That's not true. He had been pretty damn [expletive] and deserving of his bad reputation in recent years. And his reputation hasn't changed at all. I'm pretty sure most people still think he sucks. Just going by Fangrahps, which I'm pretty sure is where the early optimism comes from (unless I missed another numbers post at some point), he's been above average every year but 2009 as a Cub. His rep has just been hurt by the fact that the Cubs originally signed him as as a CF, which he's not, and that he's an awkward gangly f'er out there. I wouldn't be surprised if most still think he sucks. He's always going to have that rep and he's never going to not look awkward out there.
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I just don't get where this unique risk is...worked mostly in relief before this year...struck out 46 in 41 innings in Summer ball last year (more K's than IP this year, fastball has hit 94 this year as well)...only worked 6 innings as a freshman but struck out 8...Sounds like they've just had him working on his body in that Vanderbilt pitching program to me giving him less starts in college than the other two. Vanderbilt is a far more loaded program than the other two as far as pitching has gone as well, so that's part of the explanation. I'm hoping he or Wood are around at 43, but this draft's suckage probably means neither makes it.
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Well relative to this mediocrity heap of a draft he might be, but yes there has been talk that he might be overrated on the internet. I've read things like "well a solid average 3B is a good player" in connection with Shaffer. I think he's a likeable talent who falls firmly into the "not at 6" category.
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1. Check out Soriano's defensive numbers before this year as an OF. The only thing really changing is his reputation, and he still has his awkward moments he's always had. 2. Boston is a drastically different LF than any other LF in the league, and probably required/requires some adjustments from Crawford. There were a great deal of people who questioned the Crawford signing for Boston because his defense was such a big part of his value and that LF kind of negates his ridiculous range. Crawford was awesome defensively long before Maddon. 3. The defensive positioning is probably often contingent on the defensive skill of the player. Also, smart players know how to position themselves anyway, and coaches and players have done it for decade. It just happens to be getting press now, and with more analysis of hitters' habits its becoming easier to defend for specific hitters and specific situations.
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What's risky about him? What about that risk is more risky than other guys? I like Shaffer too, just felt like saying it. Good size, solid athleticism, good bat speed, and the tools to play 3B...He's similarly athletic to Vitters IMO, and has a similar body...actually might offer a similar ceiling to what Vitters' might be at this point...I'm comparing him to Vitters here but I doubt we hear anything about his work ethic/maturity level being poor like Vitters would admit to.
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Thoughts on Vaderbilt LHP Sam Selman? He's someone I like for the secnod or third pick. Don't like him as much as Garvin or Minor, but he does have talent.
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Has he even said anything?
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HAHA! Got 'em again big dog! Cool, calm, collected, AND funny...Unstoppable!
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Alright, good point, but I still think it's hard to see them regretting that for a while. Anybody who has a legit argument, and is most likely the clear winner, of best player for a decade is someone who has some potential to stick around and make an impact. Oh man...we're so in for these kind of threads when the Cubs make a big money signing, aren't we? I can see that being good times.
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Same here. But with the lack of bats available, I don't guess anything surprises me. Plus, he doesn't fit the model of 28ish types heading towards their prime seasons. Upton really fits great in every way for us honestly. Well Swisher is thrown out because not everyone is going to be some fresh in their early prime talent. While he doesn't fit the 28 year old model he does fit the profile of a solid, well rounded player. A distant second to Upton sure, but a viable candidate for the Cubs if they do pursue an OF bat.
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1) No, we're not parsing words there's a very clear difference there 2) What're the numbers on arm injuries in the 30's? IIRC the risk of ARM injury goes down significantly after a pitcher exits the infamous injury nexus of the late teens/early twenties. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1658 You're using general thought from some era I'm sure, but the best way of doing homework is by looking up the facts, plain and simple.
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Nick Swisher getting that much? I was thinking maaaaaaybe 4/60.
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Josh Hamilton
PriortoTheoIhadWood replied to DivineBovine's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Are you aware of the evil you're about to bring upon this thread? Or the Tf in that post? The only thing that would help fix is the lineup/OF for the periods he's healthy. -
You were the one promoting giving him 8 years. I simply said it's borderline ludicrous to give a pitcher 7-8 years and you responded that you thought it was a good idea to give Hamels 8 years. Then we debated that. I don't know that Hamels will get 8 years, but I think if he hits FA (still don't think he will) the teams will start at 5, Hamels will start at 8 and they'll meet at 6-7. I don't think 8 is out of the question at all, though. Actually you brought up 8 years...I just said I would be fine wih it and the conversation went from there. I didn't say good idea. I said I'd be fine, which is a huge difference. Obviously you prefer to not commit "too many" money or years but that's hard to do in FA, which is why you have to do your homework on who gets targeted and signed.
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6/140 for Hamels would be fine with me. That's somewhere around 23.4 or so...Sounds about right? I'd guess about 5/80 for Upton. That's 40 on two players, but that would probably still leave the Cubs below 130 in payroll, though I'm not checking any numbers to be sure about that. I think that leaves plenty of room for a secondary pitcher or bat or both. Swisher/Jackson would probably get my vote right now, but if Drew is into 2B that's an idea I could get into.
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You know he's spent more of his career in the AL than the NL and that he's been a good pitcher for a long time, right? He was an accomplished starter with the Red Sox. Another transfer, Hiroki Kuroda moved into the AL East and has seen his peripherals drop in quality so far, though his ERA is fine (3.56, career 3.46). I think a move into the AL East is the most dramatic jump for most pitchers.
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I'm not big on Zimmer or Fried, but they're two guys with enough love elsewhere that they could shut me up. Uuuuum...Heaney? I pretty much believe that there's very little chance they f it up at 6.
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Wtf is a Pete Moylan?
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Detestable or intriguing? Seems to me like you can't get enough. You've probably spent more time commenting on my posts than any other poster on this board. Must be the similarities we share like being Grade A douches/losers with dreams of being known as the most alpha poster on a message board. I can't WAIT 'til I my post count is enough that I can drop one judgmental line on a post and walk away with that little tingly feeling I have zero doubts you get (I got em good!).