It is relevant. It illustrates that as compared to another manager that DesMoinesCub knows a lot about, Tony doesn't let his players walk all over him. I wasn't arguing beside the point, I was using LaRussa's tactics as compared to Dusty's tactics as evidence to prove my point. I disagree, further, I would observe that Baker has no relevance whatsoever when observing a whining LaRussa. That is, unless he was whining about Baker (or Baker's Cubs), neither of which are the case here. We'll just have to agree to disagree here, because I just do not see the point in bringing Baker into this thread whatsoever.