4 with the Giants. The Braves and Marlins are certainly catchable. The Giants probably are too. In order to catch the Rockies and Giants, the Cubs need the Dodgers to beat the crap out of the Giants while the Giants beat the crap out of the Rockies, and some other team with nothing to play for does as well. Throughout all this the Cubs need to play their(by far) best baseball of the season. You hit the nail on the head, Ryan....lotsa if's...but as you probably know stranger things have happened...like Brooklyn having a 12 game lead on Sept. the 1st, playing .600 ball the rest of the way and STILL got caught by NY ('51?) More astounding to me was the '64 Phils who had a 6 1/2 game lead over 3 teams with 2 weeks to go and were caught by all 3! Well, not exactly....the Giants were eliminated on the friday of the last weekend. Compared to this stuff the Cubs have it easy! I know my optimism must be nauseating to dyed in the wool Cub fans....I admit to being the fair weather variety....but there is so dam much talent on this team that has not clicked yet.....I will say this: If Z does'nt start doing some good pitching right now it WILL be futile.