Every team he's coached has had a fabulous defensive reputation. Yes, most of those teams have included Hummel, Johnson, and Moore. However, guys like Byrd, Barlow, Jackson, and even Smith have shown great defensive prowess. I know your argument is that Painter has ridden Hummel, Johnson, and Moore to success. Given the production he's gotten out of his lesser players, I would say he's an above average coach at least. I'm not quite sure what leads you to believe otherwise.