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Where exactly are you hearing this from? I saw one person on Purdue's rival.com boards that posted this information and that reports are "surfacing all over the internet". Also, one Missouri sports blog is reporting that they have inside sources that say this will be announced on Tuesday. Color me sceptical. http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Sports-Horn/161039770604007#!/pages/The-Sports-Horn/161039770604007?sk=info It's funny. The last few years have brought about this ridiculous reporting of everyone taking a stab at the story so they can take credit for making the scoop. Whenever a topic pops up like this, everone starts winging their darts at the board in hopes of hitting a bullseye.

Purdue just gave up their 94th point to VCU. They gave up 88 points to Ohio State in Columbus in a game where Ohio State connected on 11 three point field goals and shot 55% overall. The most points they gave up all year besides this game was 76 to MSU in a winning effort. Tons of credit to VCU. Lots of credit has to go to the Boilermaker defense in this game too though. Unbelievably frustrating. I guess they missed Barlow's defense more than anyone thought???

Hopefully that's all it is. No Big 10 love?

At least you got Kendall Stephens coming in It will be a sweet 2 and a half years of anticipation. And there's no way this embarrassing loss will make it seem any longer...

This is Purdue athletics.

Why didn't I go to Ohio St. instead?

Nice to know that Purdue can't get the call on a choke slam against Lewis Jackson. It's bad enough to have to watch Purdue look like a bunch of lobotomized sloths as they watch VCU run the same play over and over.

So, almost all of what has been going around about Purdue/Barlow/Smith has been BS. The only thing that is 100% accurate is Barlow is in fact suspended for the rest of this year.

But if you take out every one he made, the numbers don't look nearly as good. I know, I know. Ifs and buts, and all that.

BTW, the way I see it is he shoots about 4.5 threes per game. He shoots at a 33.6%clip making about 1.5 per game. If he were shooting 40%, he'd be making about 1.8 per game. So, that equates to about 1 extra missed shot every three games. I can live with that.

how about 40 games. is that a big enough sample size for you? last 40 games- 4.92 attempts per game 29.4 percent so for the last 40 games, he's making 3's at a horrible rate, yet he's taking them as much as almost anybody. you don't see a problem with that? i don't get why you can't mention this about rose, even though it's obviously something that is bringing his game down. i'm not talking [expletive] about rose, i'm pointing out an obvious flaw. he's taking 5 three's a game and he hasn't shown in his nba career so far that he can make them. so why is everyone so defensive when i bring it up? He has to shoot it. When guys are sitting 5-8 feet off of him waiting for him to drive, he's going to have to take that shot. When he sinks a couple and defenders are forced to defend his shot, it opens him up to drive. Also, you're cherry picking stats. 40 games back just so happens to be the start of a three game stretch where he went 0-11 from three. If you go 50 games back, it would include a stretch where he went for 25 for 48 from three for a whopping 52%. Yes, .336 is not particularly impressive or desirable for a guy that's shot 304 three pointers. However, the way defenses are playing him dictates how he needs to adjust. If teams are going to give him the three, he's going to have to shoot it.

This one made my eyes bleed from the first sentence. Thanks for the head's up; it has been corrected. Can't have typos in year old articles making folks' eyes bleed. You clearly suck.

If he was taking HGH, then I would would say he is stupid. The only thing HGH will do for him is maybe, just maybe, cut 0.01 seconds off of his time from home to 1st base. That's about it.

We haven't won two games in a row since january. Won't happen here. I knew this was going to happen. It's historically about time for the big Purdue let down. I'm sure we'll see plenty of Illini fans teeing off on the Purdue fans after this game. :banghead: why did you say this? Do you still question why I said this?

First of all, why do you put my name in apostrophes? Second, I guess I should have qualified my statement by starting out with "Based on the data, the conclusion I draw is...". Please excuse my faux pas. Third, thank you for that site. I've never heard of it and am looking forward to checking it out through out the upcoming year. Lastly, don't you think you're being a little high and mighty given the fact that you're using severely inadequate data? Sure, I'm making assumptions based on limited information available to us, and in fairness I shouldn't make such affirmative statements like the one I just partially contracted. Calling me out on that and presenting your own flawed argument doesn't make you more right than I though.

It's not reliable to within 2-3%. LD% isn't even kept track of at some parks. So... we should really assume batted ball data to be an unknown? That's what I was doing from the start. But... that's only because I've never been able to find such info and always assumed nobody keeps track of it (which I guess is partially right) :lol: .

Where do you get information on batted balls? That's a huge missing piece of the equation that I thought we did not have here. Obviously that's going to have an effect on my opinion.

The good thing about Carroll is that he's already a solid rebounder, and he actually is a decent shooter. However, he needs to work on his footwork and his defense. He's not going to be able to take the tough, off-balance shots that JaJuan takes, nor is he going to be able to play 36-38 minutes per game. There's no way he's going to take JaJuan's place. The team will have a different dynamic starting next year. Carroll will need to rebound, get some clean up baskets, and man up on big bodies. I think he can do that. Improved speed and footwork would be great. He looks very clumsy in the motion offense right now. I think he can get better in those areas though. Look at Johnson as a freshman compared to him now as an example. Bade too. Even though he's not a solid contributor, there's no doubting the guy's footwork and speed is much better than it was as a freshman. His confidence on the other hand...

He was comparing him though to Weber and Crean. He's better than those two. Crean, my impression is that Painter and Weber are both way ahead of the game. Weber, I personally have a lot respect for and I wouldn't exactly say that Purdue has a "coaching advantage" there. What do you like about Weber? I think he's done well recruiting past and present. I also tend to give him a lot of credit for the 2004-2005 season. I recognize that the Illini have underperformed recently, especially this year. I guess the underperforming hasn't tipped the scales against him yet in my eyes. I don't have a close eye on him or Illinois though. While I know quite a bit about the Big Ten basketball, I admittedly have extreme tunnel vision when it comes to NCAA basketball. Most of what I know about other Big Ten teams is based on coverage leading up to and after a game they play against Purdue.

He was comparing him though to Weber and Crean. He's better than those two. Crean, my impression is that Painter and Weber are both way ahead of the game. Weber, I personally have a lot respect for and I wouldn't exactly say that Purdue has a "coaching advantage" there.

I said above average at least...

Every team he's coached has had a fabulous defensive reputation. Yes, most of those teams have included Hummel, Johnson, and Moore. However, guys like Byrd, Barlow, Jackson, and even Smith have shown great defensive prowess. I know your argument is that Painter has ridden Hummel, Johnson, and Moore to success. Given the production he's gotten out of his lesser players, I would say he's an above average coach at least. I'm not quite sure what leads you to believe otherwise.

You don't care about how many hits and walks they're giving up? Really? Not his hits, really. How are hits completely inconsequential? Sure, the fielders are worse, and the fields are also worse... but so are the hitters. Last year, McNutt gave up less hits in 13 more innings pitched compared to Miller. He also did that while spending half of his time between A+ and AA. You're telling me that means absolutely nothing to you?

If Hummel comes back close you will be ok next year. After that tho it could be rough a bit. They have one 4 star prospect this year in Terone Johnson, one coming in 2012 in Raphael Davis, one coming in 2013 in Bryson Scott, and three fringe 4 star players over that span too (Jacob Lawson, Jay Simpson, Basil Smotherman). Granted, it's nothing like Indiana's and Illinois' most recent commitments, but I think it will be enough to pair with what they have already to be competitive. 2011 Travis Carroll Robbie Hummel DJ Byrd Ryne Smith Lewis Jackson 2012 Travis Carroll Jacob Lawson DJ Byrd Raphael Davis Kelsey Barlow 2013 Travis Carroll Jay Simpson Raphael Davis Terone Johnson Bryson Scott The one thing that needs to hold up in all of this is Travis Carroll. He was recruited as a 3 star prospect last year, but he lost weight before arriving and has contributed solid minutes as a freshman. I think he's up to task of running the 5 for a couple of years for Purdue.

I may have to if it keeps working. Honestly though, I had visions of what happened in the first half of the first half all day leading up to the game.