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I have no interest in working today, so I thought I peruse moc drafts 1-4 all QBs, Bears take Bateman Bears take Mayfield OT, miss Trey by one pick this Mayfield guy pops up again Bateman, again Olave because Robinson leaves - I guess Toney....yaaawn Slater, T so, consensus is its either WR or OT -
sure, but there were also the highlights of him hitting guys in stride down the sidelines against Fuller. Not to mention, anytime the practice D got the better of a rookie/2nd year quarterback it just fell back to "wow, the Bears have an AWESOME D!" and they did in 2018 Just for the hell of it I looked at some pre-draft scouting reports of Mitch and it's all there - strong arm but, struggles with downfield accuracy, questionable footwork, trouble recognizing disguised overages, good scrambler - once again just what the hell was so special that Pace HAD to draft him? all three had questions, Watson's arm strength was questionable, Mahomes was a "project". idk. The only real damning issue with Trubisky was his lack of experience which was 1-year starting, and against weaker comp iirc. But then again, Mahomes hadn't really played anyone either at that point.
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thats interesting Weren't there whispers of the defense abusing Mitch in practice? That is doing things like showing one look but, go another on the snap, etc. confusing the hell out of him? sure, but there were also the highlights of him hitting guys in stride down the sidelines against Fuller. Not to mention, anytime the practice D got the better of a rookie/2nd year quarterback it just fell back to "wow, the Bears have an AWESOME D!" and they did in 2018
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really? I don't remember that (not before and during 2018 anyway) It wasn't a publicly discussed issue, it was a person in the organization who speaks to a friend of mine. Back when I thought Mitch had a chance to live up to the draft pick, he told me not to get my hopes up. thats interesting
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this is dumb because while Mitch turned out not to be the answer, Nagy knew who he was when he took the job and at the time glowingly talked about him. Nagy was brought in to develop Mitch, not install his offense. Somehow, that has reversed. Nagy shares responsibility in the mess FWIW I know that the offensive coaches had relatively low opinions of Mitch very early on, it was why I've thought all along that Nagy would survive a Mitch collapse. I am assuming they were honest with Pace about what they (and the rest of the league) thinks about Mitch and felt they'd have an opportunity to help pick the next guy. really? I don't remember that (not before and during 2018 anyway)
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this is dumb because while Mitch turned out not to be the answer, Nagy knew who he was when he took the job and at the time glowingly talked about him. Nagy was brought in to develop Mitch, not install his offense. Somehow, that has reversed. Nagy shares responsibility in the mess
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horsefeathers it . lets go deep I'm cool with going deep. My biggest worry is that Ryan Pace is going to pay going deep prices for someone who is decidedly not deep, like Matt Stafford. totally possible on the other hand, maybe he's learned his lesson
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This thinking is why I'm not gungho about the Jets trading for Watson. His arm strength really leaves alot to be desired, it's long forgotten but his velocity at the combine was *really* bad. I haven't even considered him the Texans' best offensive player, that would be Tunsil, over the past two years its not forgotten, its the #1 reason I had Trubisky over Watson. I know he carved up Alabama, but lack of arm strength sucks in the nfl*. How do you sling back a 750 of vodka and go deep the way the GREAT ORTON did? of course, I had noooo idea who Patrick Mahomes was. never heard of him *old man patronage taken liberally here
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If Dak hits FA, I'd be ecstatic to give him an outrageous contract. Otherwise this terrifies me. horsefeathers it . lets go deep
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Minshew, right? hahahaha
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I was trying to figure out what is the most Bears outcome to this situation and figured it was either giving up too much for Darnold or acquiring Wentz without any relief for his salary factored in. But I don't think Wentz is going anywhere now so the second most likely may be Pace bidding against himself and somehow giving Mitch 3 years with no cap relief in years 2 and 3. Give up 3 1sts for Rodgers and then he retires next year after an 8-8 finish. Packers select HOF QB Mac Jones with one of those picks. That is the most Bear outcome. nah, thats how the Vikings roll
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wow. RIP Hank
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a little from column a, a little from column b I'm sure they have quality coaches if they are getting poached, but the degree to which they are leaving suggests zero faith in sticking around past the end of next season, and/or the lack of opportunities to move up in Chicago
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lions are running away with the division they said
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Lock was just an example. But I do disagree with your assessment of his potential (his season was pretty bad though). The point was, if the Bears don't come up with 1 sure option, they then need to come up with 2 lottery tickets....1 via FA or trade and 1 via draft. Lock had the worst WR supporting cast of any QB in the league. At one point, rookie Jerry Jeudy was his only target of any significance, and even he was running wrong routes and dropping passes. I'd take Lock over Trubisky in a heartbeat if the Broncos make a big splash. bad footwork, can't read a defense, yup sounds like a Chicago QB
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minnesotacubsfan replied to NOLA's topic in Other Sports
he wanted the guy the jets hired as HC. Also one or two good seasons with that team will immortalize you in ways a Philip Rivers type career for 20 years never could. you mean putting up top 10 numbers years in a row while never getting to the Super Bowl? idk. It seems like he'd just be second fiddle to Eli Manning in that town -
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yea but, why would Watson want to go to the Jets -
Yeah ok
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yea, a rd 2-4 QB should always be a priority if you dont have a Rodgers starting even then Yea I mean didn't the Packers fart out like 3 or 4 guys into trade capital that they developed behind Favre in the 90s? "developed" is a strong term I'm not sure I would use to describe the gases you are describing. there was actually alottttta horsefeathers but, I think teams have slowed down on that train since Jimmy G. I'd do it just to try and find a guy who can play QB if I didnt have a shot at a cant miss like Lawerence - if there is such a thing
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Without getting Fields, Wilson, Lance or Watson, I'm thinking loading up on the offensive line while waiting for the next QB opportunity is way to go. So go with that bridge or patch work QB, having that OL in place will certainly help to hasten the development of your franchise QB. I just want to see a QB somewhere this draft. Obviously 20 doesnt look like a strong spot to pick high at this point, but guys like Mond or Newman are compelling enough as day 3 picks. Even if they're only ever backups that's 4 cheap years of backup QB play. Grab a practice squad flyer who isn't Tyler Bray also. yea, a rd 2-4 QB should always be a priority if you dont have a Rodgers starting even then
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if you are frustrated with the qb play this year, how does that make any sense on improving it next year? You get MUCH worse at the starter. resign Trubisky and roll the dice on Jones. There is no reason to get worse while trying to get better You have to try lots of options. Put a guy in a new system and who knows, he might improve. But if the worst case is you actually get worse QB play, then you'll also get a much better draft pick in 2022 and an entirely new regime to make that selection. Drew Lock's only real playing time has produced numbers worse than Trubiskys worse year. So I guess if the idea is to tank next year, Lock is definitely the guy. But hoping for a come around..yeeeesh
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' huh? What's so hard to understand? if you are frustrated with the qb play this year, how does that make any sense on improving it next year? You get MUCH worse at the starter. resign Trubisky and roll the dice on Jones. There is no reason to get worse while trying to get better
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' huh?
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minnesotacubsfan replied to NOLA's topic in Other Sports
There was a sentiment that you could surround Brady with anyone and win championships. The team regularly took cast-offs from other teams and day 2/3 draft picks and sustained success. I don't know if anyone argued that Brady was unimportant, but I haven't delved back into the hot take archives So... that doesn't really disprove any Belicheck myth than? As long as it admits Belicheck's system was reliant on a HOF QB. It was still an incredibly successful system that other franchises with a HOF QB didn't get near matching. when the Pats sign Watson, we will finally get to see his system in full effect -
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minnesotacubsfan replied to NOLA's topic in Other Sports
Mahomes hurt
