A bit of a tangent on the thread topic, but I'm currently watching the final of the UEFA women's under 19 tournament. I'm not going to comment on the easthetic qualities of the players (given my gender and age, that would be inappropriate), but it struck me that soccer culture does indeed extend to this level too: the German fraulein play in a very organised way, and the English young ladies never ever pull their foot back when going for a ball. :wink: :lol: Half time score: Germany 0 - England 0