yep. he's done...i can tell all i need to know about a guy after four starts. this whole season is the fault of hill and patterson. Who talked about CPatt there? Does anyone actually read anymore? Anyway, I'm not saying Hill is a failure or to blame for the season. What I'm pointing out is that a lot of people thought Hill was a sticking point in a trade for Dunn or any Reds outfielder. Since this poor performance is against Reds, chances are they will no longer want him as much in a trade. In other words, this performance decreases his value to the Reds if there ever was a trade to discuss with the Reds. and if there's one thing we've learned from years worth of trade deadline talk, it's that every rumor you hear is true. i'm sure that if hendry would have offered hill for dunn, he would have gotten laughed straight out of town.