Here's some 2008 projections James J.Loney .302 /.359/.465 /.823 CHONE J.Loney .284/.347/.431/.778 James M.Kemp .322/.365/.508/.873 CHONE M.Kemp .289/.337/.467/.804 Yeah, it'd totally suck to have those two hitting 3 and 5. Absolutely awful. James M. Murton .305/.373/.468/.841 James D. Lee .297/.386/.515/.901 Let's see. We want a higher OBP no? Both Murton and Lee are better than Kemp and Loney in that department. Lee's considerably better than Kemp and Murton's considerably better than Loney. Yeah, it'd totally suck to have those two hitting 3 and 5. Absolutely awful. The point is that you don't lose all that much offensively and you save a ton of cash. Cash is then applied to A-Rod. Also, D-Lee is on the downswing of his career and is only going to get worse, while Kemp and Loney are young and going to improve. Which would you rather have? Lee, Muton, and Theriot or Loney, Kemp, and A-Rod I'd go with the second option. Never going to happen, but that would probably be the best scenario for this team. Patterson, D-Lee, and Marshall for Loney and Kemp? Save a ton of cash? you'd save what? 15 mil? arod isnt signing for 15 mil We already have about 15M to spend. You save 15M or more by trading Lee. 15+15=30. I think we could have got A-Rod to sign to 25-30. None of this really matters, because there isn't any chance of it happening. I'm just saying that we'd be better off if we could trade Lee and others for two young players like Kemp and Loney, who have a good chance to be good for a long time.