Little Slide Rooter

Something drastic needs to happen here. dont care if its Jake Fox or a trade or whatever, but this has been absolutely pathetic.

Exactly. If you want to look for a bright spot, Guzman is continuing to make the team confident that they have their 7th inning guy. is patton really going away? i hadn't heard anything about this, other than most of NSBB wanting him gone. We havnt seen the guy in ages. Theres really no need to keep him over Ascanio, who Lou actually seems to almost trust.

If Milton homers, that will be awasome. Probably wont though. I really hope I see something better in San Diego. Hopefully Fontenots on the bench and Miles and Freel are somewhere else.

Exactly. If you want to look for a bright spot, Guzman is continuing to make the team confident that they have their 7th inning guy. Basically it could be Wells as long man Ascanio 5th/6th if needed Heilman mop up Cotts loogy until we get someone better Guz 7th Marmol 8th Gregg closer.

At least our pen is starting to take some shape. Patton will probably be gone, Ascanio will get Heilmans spot, Heilman gets Pattons spot.

I doubt Ascanio goes down instead of 1 of the 2 guys we havnt seen in about a month. Neither Cotts or Patton have been pitching much lately, hopefully one of those two are cut, DFA'd, traded, taken out back and shot, left at the STL airport, or whatever it takes to get rid of one of them. For all I care both of them can go away and not come back. Bad relievers are always replaceable.

I doubt Ascanio goes down instead of 1 of the 2 guys we havnt seen in about a month.

I dont think it should be legal for 1 team to be this bad.

To get Hoff in the lineup, or what? i guess. according to Lou (via Len), Soriano to 2B, Hoff to LF. WOOT, a run! Thats a double whammy. Not only to you have a bad defensive second baseman, but you lose Sorianos arm in the outfield. If you're willing to sacrifice defense, just bring up Fox for 3rd.

huzzah.

With Peavy at PetCo tomorrow, how about 4 games?

Im starting to wish that we hadnt scored in the 9th last night. 3 straight shut outs would have hopefully embarassed Lou into doing something. Anything.

Damn !! The sox finally scored. :evil: That could be a month and a half worth of runs for us at this point.

These clowns are not playing good baseball by any stretch of the imagination.

Some guy Id take over anyone in our lineup.

If were going to have a guy out there whose going to kill us with his defense...I wont even say it.

Crap day for the Pale Hose. Not only are they humiliated at home by their chief rival but they have to go through a much condensed version of what wewent through all winter.

My only wish is that he one day does head to head with Dan McDaniel just to see Brenleys head explode.

I know which I'm actually pretty happy about. Right now one of this team issues is not having that long guy to eat up innings and keep the game close when the Cubs are only behind by a run or two or tied. Last season we had that with Lieber early in the season and Marshall in the second half. That allowed us to come back and win a bunch of games. This season there's been like 3-5 games when we were in the game until Patton, Cotts, Samardzija and Fox let things get out of hand. Sundays game with the Astros was another example of that with Ascaino giving up two runs and then we saw the Cubs comeback in the 9th. So when Zambrano comes back I'm hoping Wells or Marshall will be able to fill that role and hold teams down for a inning or two and allow the offense to come back. I think the return of Zambrano makes Wells more expendable - if we can use him to acquire a good bat to help fill the void of missing Aramis (and perhaps fill in for Fontenot if he continues to struggle), then I say go for it. If he still won't bring a good return, however, I agree that he should be moved to the pen. Wells has had 2 solid starts, but its going to take more than that to aquire anything of substance for him. Maybe if packaged with Jake Fox and another prospect of the Kevin Hart/Mitch Atkins like, we could be in business. I don't think it'd be on his own, but a guy like Wells who has been decent enough in the minors and then comes to the majors and has 2-3 good starts could become the centerpiece of a minor deal (i.e. for Branyan). It likely would take a Jake Fox or someone like that to really get the Mariners thinking about it. The question is, hiow much do we give up for a stop gap/lightening in a bottle type of player? Id give them Jake Fox and Kevin Hert, and even thats selling high for the Ms.

Hawks probably losing it right about now.

benching miton bradley would be really stupid. even if he doesn't hit like he did with the rangers, you have to go back to the early 2000s for when he was not really making positive contributions with the bat. unless there is something wrong with him physically that is preventing him from hitting well, he's extremely likely to be at last a .280/.360/.450 guy in RF - and probably better than that. so yeah, benching bradley and soto is the answer if you're trying to sabotage your team. I wasnt suggesting it. I was responding to the post above.

I know which I'm actually pretty happy about. Right now one of this team issues is not having that long guy to eat up innings and keep the game close when the Cubs are only behind by a run or two or tied. Last season we had that with Lieber early in the season and Marshall in the second half. That allowed us to come back and win a bunch of games. This season there's been like 3-5 games when we were in the game until Patton, Cotts, Samardzija and Fox let things get out of hand. Sundays game with the Astros was another example of that with Ascaino giving up two runs and then we saw the Cubs comeback in the 9th. So when Zambrano comes back I'm hoping Wells or Marshall will be able to fill that role and hold teams down for a inning or two and allow the offense to come back. I think the return of Zambrano makes Wells more expendable - if we can use him to acquire a good bat to help fill the void of missing Aramis (and perhaps fill in for Fontenot if he continues to struggle), then I say go for it. If he still won't bring a good return, however, I agree that he should be moved to the pen. Wells has had 2 solid starts, but its going to take more than that to aquire anything of substance for him. Maybe if packaged with Jake Fox and another prospect of the Kevin Hart/Mitch Atkins like, we could be in business.

Would anyone be willing to take a gamble on Dan Uggla? Imagine the defense of Uggla at 2nd and Fox at 3rd.

DFA

Twins up on the Sox 10-0. I onlybring this up because Bartolo gave up 8 runs in 2 innings, but only 1 was earned. Unless there were 8 errors in thiose 2 innings, this is why the earned vs. unearned run stat is ridiculous.