I was just adding that he was DFAd and it wasnt worth its own thread. Herges is the guy Id really like to get. We have too many guys in the pen that Lou refuses to to go to in any kind of close situation. with Herges, Marshall, Guz, Marmol, and Gregg, we could have a very solid pen. Even Heilman would be a decent #6 guy in the pen. You said you would give them BOTH a look, that has nothing to do with their own thread or whatever. But yea Herges adds more value than Patton, Hart, and even Shark right now. Heilman looks to maybe just maybe finally be getting command of his pitches. If he can do that, Heilman-Guz-Marmol-Gregg can be a very good backend of the pen. I said give him a look. He was decent last year, and I remember the Cubs were talking about trading for him either last season or this past off season. And as for Heilman, yeah, he was as good as weve seen him yesterday, but need I remind you of Thursday when he was at his worst? I was listening on the radio, and he literally almost made Ron cry when we had a 5 run lead.