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He's hitting well, What? -
Not sure why a weak bloop single would prevent him from being sent down. It's hard for me to believe a team would be stupid enough to add a guy to the 40 man and then send him down 2 days later, when all they had to do was call up Pie in the first place. But it's the Cubs, so it could happen. I have to assume Patterson is up for at least the next week or so.
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I wouldn't either, he's had about a 550 OPS since the break, I think. Not sure why they didn't bring up Pie in the first place, given the obvious need for an OF. It would be so ridiculous to send down Patterson after 2 days.
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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-7-2007
jersey cubs fan replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Donaldson seems to be off to a great minor league start. I was hoping he'd be able to master the Midwest League this year, but a 950+ OPS with fantastic K/BB ratio is good regardless of the league. -
How would you? You have three lefties. No matter what combo's you use two lefties would have to go back to back. Not in most 3 game series. The best you could do is RLRLL. Take that 5 man rotation through 1 series and you only have 1 lefty. But by the 2nd series, you go back to back. It's inevitable that lefties will throw back to back against the same team quite often throughout any period of time. You could cut reduce them by having one guy constantly going on 3 days rest, therefore constantly shuffling the rotation, but that's not very likely.
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BA's Prospect Hot Sheet
jersey cubs fan replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Do you see Pie being moved to RF, then? Actually I see one being traded, or Pie sticking in CF and Colvin not making it. I can't imagine Colvin putting up the numbers that would make him a productive corner OF, that's why I was saying my realistic hope is 6 years of cost effective (but far from great) production out of CF. Pie would really have to reach his full ceiling in the next 3-4 years as a 900+ OPS guy to think you'd be doing the right thing having both out there. -
Oh my freaking lord this drives me nuts. Leadoff hitter is not a position. There is no requirement about what player can hit there. You don't call up a leadoff hitter when your LF goes down, you call up a LF. Furthermore, Pie would be 100 times the LF Patterson is.
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But you don't know that's the case. So you're settling for mediocrity rather than taking a chance on the unknown with potential. Of course I don't know that's the case. Nobody can see the future. Certainly there's the potential for the unknown to outperform the mediocrity. But there's even greater potential for the unknown to underperform the mediocrity, or for the mediocrity to return to career norms. The sort of "taking a chance" you're talking about here is the same kind that built Las Vegas. The odds are in the house's favor, but people "take a chance" anyway because it's exciting. The promise of a big payoff leads folks to ignore the negative EV. That's a pretty ridiculous mindset if you ask me. You do a really poor job of theorizing about career norms. Post-30 players playing like crap don't just return to their averages. Their averages were built up when they were better. They aren't the same player. Furthermore, there is no house here. There is no law of averages saying the odds are that crappy veterans will outperform hot hitting prospects. This is the exact same mindset that has led to the Cubs sucking so bad for so long. It's mind boggling why people still believe this nonsense.
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BA's Prospect Hot Sheet
jersey cubs fan replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Hope? Yes. High hopes? Not realistic ones. Sure I hope like heck he turns into a Jonny Damon circa 98-06 (although he'll never match that K/BB ratio), but I fear he might be no better than Mark Kotsay at the top end, pretty good for 3-4 years but largely unimpressive the rest of the time. And even that is a stretch at this point. Kotsay spent less than 1.5 years in the minors and blew away what Colvin is doing right now. As a largely unproductive nearly 22 year old minor leaguer with an atrocious K/BB ratio, my realistic hope is that he gives the Cubs 6 cost effective, but mediocre years in CF (or helps them acquire an impact bat via trade). But as a still young guy, I do maintain some far reaching hope that he can do more than that. -
OPS 2007/career Floyd: .749/.843 Pagan: .750/.724 Jones: .664/.781 Kendall: .729/.770 Fontenot: .820/.821 And you missed DeRosa, .783/.743. Not a lot of support for your theory that the group will combine for a .600 OPS from here on out. This group seems much more likely: Pie: .617/.617 Cedeno: .446/.614 Soto: .393/.441 Patterson: n/a Murton: .674/.803 I'm all for Murton in LF. But beyond that, I think there's a whole ton of wishful thinking going on with those other guys. Settle for mediocrity (or in many cases, worse) or try for something better. You seem to be willing to settle for mediocrity, and very clearly hope for the failure of the young players on the team. I don't know, I would think the Cubs long history of failure would indicate to most that maybe, just maybe, the people in charge aren't very good at their jobs.
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He should have less. Those guys get paid a lot more and should produce a hell of a lot more. Smart teams, like Atlanta, give spots to kids and let them work through the kinks.
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Actually, baseball is a perception, myth and nostalgia driven sport, if people analyzed performance better, there'd be fewer stupid roster decisions. Murton was given more than 3-4 games to perform, and he did, last year. But he wasn't given a chance this year, and has been labelled a failure anyway by people who pretend baseball is about fighting for positions.
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It's an attempt to get the ball to act more like it does in every other stadium. It's a smart way to try and offset the challenges of running a franchise in Denver. I don't understand why anybody would have a problem with it. It's not like the Rockies are the only ones who get to use the balls.
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Maybe you can work a trade for him, because his future in Chicago is very limited. True. Unfortunate and unjustified, but most likely true. I do appreciate your imput, but why is it unjustified? I know there is a huge debate in the organization about Murton's value, what do you think his real value is? Thanks for your time! His value is that he's an inexpensive player under team control for many years who is likely to produce solid numbers right now. And given some time, he has the ability to move beyond just solid to very good. Those assets are treasured by most teams, whereas the Cubs seem to prefer mediocre expensive veterans who do no better, and often worse, for a hell of a lot more money. That leads to roster/payroll inefficiencies, and ultimately, too few wins at the end of the season for the dollars spent.
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Hahahaha :lol: He is a professional athlete, if he can't handle the pressure he should work as a toll booth operator or something. Jeez, the excuses are already starting to roll before the game even starts. Would be nice to see him step up and force Lou to play him. are Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez under the pressure of going 3 for 4 with no errors every game? I know that's not really the argument you want to make, is it Derwood? I mean, Murton has the potential - or more importantly has shown in the past - that he can be a dependable Major League outfielder. But Aramis or Lee? It's not about whether he can duplicate their careers. It's about the fact that ballplayers should not be judged on any one game, and shouldn't have undue pressure on performing in any one game, or even a handful of games. It's bad enough when teams do this with 1st year players, but with guys who have already produced in the majors? It's even more ridiculous.
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Hahahaha :lol: He is a professional athlete, if he can't handle the pressure he should work as a toll booth operator or something. Jeez, the excuses are already starting to roll before the game even starts. Would be nice to see him step up and force Lou to play him. are Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez under the pressure of going 3 for 4 with no errors every game? No but lesser players are ..i.e. Jones, Izturis, Murton, Pie, Fotenot, Pagan. I agree with Lou's decision making, in one way. The Cubs are in the middle of a playoff race. Lou needs to put players on the field that are going to produce immediately. Some players excel in pressure situations and take advantage of a slight opportunity (Fontenot, Marmol, Theriot, Marshall) others this year have not (Cedeno, Murton, Cherry). They don't have 10 games to give Murton so he could possibly get his stroke back. Cubs need to win every game they can. Making decisions that way is how you end up with a really screwed up roster.
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Hahahaha :lol: He is a professional athlete, if he can't handle the pressure he should work as a toll booth operator or something. Jeez, the excuses are already starting to roll before the game even starts. Would be nice to see him step up and force Lou to play him. Whether or not you want to admit it, expecting baseball players to produce IN THIS GAME RIGHT NOW TODAY or be labelled as not getting the job done is just asinine. That's how they've dealt with Murton this year. You simply can't hand a guy a game, or even 3-4 games, and say you better capitalize on your opportunity. Playing time should be doled out based on reasonable expectations of future performance, not how you did last week.
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He's been beyond awful for over two months now.
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Maybe you can work a trade for him, because his future in Chicago is very limited. True. Unfortunate and unjustified, but most likely true.
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Cubs need a shot in the arm!
jersey cubs fan replied to Cubfan_N_nebraska's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Makes me wonder if he walked out on them too... what..... -
Could this be similar to the situation where a fielder with no range maintains a high fielding percentage by getting to the easy ones? I really don't know the numbers, but I feel like I've seen a lot of wild pitches with Kendall back there, as his old broken down body isn't able to stop anything but the simplest ball in the dirt. Obviously, that's based on anectodal evidence and my own flawed eyes, but it could be the case here.
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That's really overstating the situation.
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The Bears Training Camp and Preseason Thread
jersey cubs fan replied to cubweiser03's topic in Other Sports
not sure I'm going to be able to handle the transition. -
It may be the best they can do with what they have, but solid? I guess it depends on how you define it, but people should remember the lineup is no better than average, and by some measures (OPS+) they are below average. That's with Soriano. If you get the hot version of Murton replacing Soriano, then maybe that lineup is solid. But if Murton is a step below Soriano, then your talking about a very questionable lineup. Sure, if all those guys perform at their best, it's going to score a lot of runs. But that's not going to happen.
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2nd half line - .266/.360/.313 that's bad. The OBP is nice, but it's not good enough to offset the nonexistent SLG. He had a ton of playing time in June, and at several challenging positions. Lou is all about resting guys, and DeRosa should be on the list. They need him for August and September, and as a guy who hasn't hit in a week and hasn't hit much more than the occasional since in 6 weeks, there's no reason to try and fill him into more spots in the lineup.
