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Was he at all interested in coming here? I think it's safe to say any free agent would be interested in coming to the Cubs. There's no reason to assume otherwise. -
First Cubs SP Complete Game SO of 2008?
jersey cubs fan replied to Schwarber Fan's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Mark Prior has thrown over 200 innings since Carlos Zambrano's last shutout. Mark Prior has thrown ZERO innings since Rich Hill's last shutout. guh? Yes, Rich Hill threw a 9 inning, CG SHO in 2006, a year where he was averaging 5 2/3 IP per start. Blind Squirrel, meet nut. Scott Eyre throwing a complete game shutout would be a blind squirrel finding a nut. Hill is a very good starting pitcher who has as good a chance as almost anybody, and definitely any Cubs pitcher, to throw a complete game SO. -
Colvin only has one major flaw, as far as I'm concerned: his lack of walks. The high reward I see in him is if he sticks in CF and if he manages to pull an Alexis Rios/Jose Reyes and starts talking more walks. If that's the case, he has the potential to be an All Star OF. That said, I don't have much faith in this organization to teach him better patience at the plate. Other than the high draft pick and contract given to him, I actually think of him as low risk low reward. I think he's a decent bet to make it in the majors, but never be good enough to star.
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I don't know why anybody would assume that. He's a big fat 38 year old coming off surgery. He was basically just above average at his best. And barely hanging onto average recently. I would not assume that he'll be able to maintain averageness even if he is healthy. Grow up. Is it really necessary to call him fat? You've done so several times in this thread. Yes it is. He's fat and he hurt his foot because he couldn't carry his load. It's also an indication he doesn't take care of himself very much, which could lead to steeper decline, and/or inability to recover from the injury. Players' weight is a valid topic.
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What's that exactly?
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I wouldn't. Unless he's too injured to start the season, he'll start. He's always said the right things. But he's going to be in the rotation if he's healthy enough to start the season.
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The only thing to wonder is if there is a trade. Because if nobody is moved, it's a near lock to be Zambrano, Lilly, Hill, Marquis and Lieber.
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That is some rather strange logic.
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yeah, that's not true at all. after all, he's not playing for free. also, i'd rather have marshall out there than lieber. so i'd say the worst case scenario is lieber sucks, steals $3.5 mil and the cubs lose games because a better pitcher loses starts. or, the cubs could trade marquis/dempster, lieber (predictably) gets hurt, and the cubs are thin in the rotation. Worst case depends on when the incentives kick in. If he makes a million just for showing up the first month and helps lose games, then we could be talking about a lower worst case scenario than what you pointed out.
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This makes no sense. First off, nobody is calling it the worst move ever. But more importantly, the fact that he's an ex-cub makes no difference to those people who have issues with the deal.
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And out an extra $3.5M. I'd rather put that towards taking a risk a position we have real holes at. 3.5 million isn't that big of a deal to us, when the payroll has been rumored to be as high as 135 million. And who can you get for 3.5 million that would fill a hole of ours? How many $2-4 million players whose contracts "aren't that big a deal to us" do we need to fill up the margins of the roster? Lieber, like most of Hendry's moves, isn't a horrible acquisition. It's just that also like most of Hendry's moves, it's a waste of resources and leaves the sum of the parts worth much less than they are getting paid. This team was not in need of a mediocre starting pitcher. And that is all Lieber is. It'll be interesting to see when the bonuses kick in.
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I think you can add DeRosa, Theriot, Pie, Wuertz, Howry and Eyre to that list. It all depends on what you get back, but you can improve the team this year while at the same time trading any number of projected 25 man roster guys.
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I don't know why anybody would assume that. He's a big fat 38 year old coming off surgery. He was basically just above average at his best. And barely hanging onto average recently. I would not assume that he'll be able to maintain averageness even if he is healthy.
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Which of the big Chicago 3 will win a title first?
jersey cubs fan replied to UMFan83's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I think the Bears could easily get right back to the top of the NFC next year. And given the nature of the NFL, where teams can go from the bottom to the top rather quickly, I think they'd be the best bet. The Cubs should be at the top of the list, because they are the only one of the three to have a distinct advantage by being located in Chicago (other than Bears HFA against certain opponents). But I just can't trust their management team to get the job done. -
The Cubs really abused the heck out of him the first time through. He was a guy with health issues in Pittsburgh, then he comes here and enjoys some success. Suddenly, he's going from 171 IP, to 203 and 251, followed by 232, then TJS. He was repeatedly thrown out there to pitch after long rain delays.
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Yes, but the fat old guy with foot problems is also a huge question mark. Seriously, he can't bear his own weight.
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The problem is most people want Marquis replaced in the rotation, now they just have two versions of him.
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Wouldn't it be great to have a rotation of Zambrano, Lilly, Marquis, Lieber and Dempster?
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Aside from the "I'm in favor of signing Lieber", this post is right on the money. So you'd rather have Prior sign for the same amount so that he can rehab until August, give us 2 months at most of pitching (for the first time in over 2 years mind you) and then let him go for nothing? Yes, I would always prefer to the outside chance for greatness over hoping some out of shape old mediocre pitcher can hang in there for most of the season.
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Yeah, if they gave him any real money, he's not competing for anything. He's got the spot. Hopefully they trade Marquis and/or Dempster.
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very very little When healthy he's been perfectly average. Blah, blah, blah. He's not healthy, hasn't been in years. There's no reason to think he can stay healthy. You have to do 2 things to earn your money as a pitcher, actually pitch, and pitch well. We don't know if he'll pitch well, but we can be fairly certain he won't actually pitch all year.
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A, becuase Jim Hendry is a bad GM, and B, because Jason Marquis is actually a decent bet to finish three straight seasons actually pitching. Lieber is a fatty who is old and can't stay healthy. He's shown no interest in maintaining his body with age, so nobody is going to interested in giving him money to flop around on the mound and hit the DL because his body can't handle his weight.
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very very little
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Extra room at the Hilton with passes(not looking for profit)
jersey cubs fan replied to Garwilly's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I miss the days when 5 to a room was no big deal. -
I think he was pretty good at his best. Unlike most Cubs pitchers, he didn't give away first base. But no, he isn't good anymore. I'm not sure why people are so certain "he can still pitch" and will be better than Marquis and Dempster. I think among the three you might find one who doesn't stink, but who knows which one that will be.
