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yeah, that's not true at all. after all, he's not playing for free. also, i'd rather have marshall out there than lieber. so i'd say the worst case scenario is lieber sucks, steals $3.5 mil and the cubs lose games because a better pitcher loses starts. or, the cubs could trade marquis/dempster, lieber (predictably) gets hurt, and the cubs are thin in the rotation. Worst case depends on when the incentives kick in. If he makes a million just for showing up the first month and helps lose games, then we could be talking about a lower worst case scenario than what you pointed out. -
This makes no sense. First off, nobody is calling it the worst move ever. But more importantly, the fact that he's an ex-cub makes no difference to those people who have issues with the deal.
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And out an extra $3.5M. I'd rather put that towards taking a risk a position we have real holes at. 3.5 million isn't that big of a deal to us, when the payroll has been rumored to be as high as 135 million. And who can you get for 3.5 million that would fill a hole of ours? How many $2-4 million players whose contracts "aren't that big a deal to us" do we need to fill up the margins of the roster? Lieber, like most of Hendry's moves, isn't a horrible acquisition. It's just that also like most of Hendry's moves, it's a waste of resources and leaves the sum of the parts worth much less than they are getting paid. This team was not in need of a mediocre starting pitcher. And that is all Lieber is. It'll be interesting to see when the bonuses kick in.
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I think you can add DeRosa, Theriot, Pie, Wuertz, Howry and Eyre to that list. It all depends on what you get back, but you can improve the team this year while at the same time trading any number of projected 25 man roster guys.
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I don't know why anybody would assume that. He's a big fat 38 year old coming off surgery. He was basically just above average at his best. And barely hanging onto average recently. I would not assume that he'll be able to maintain averageness even if he is healthy.
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Which of the big Chicago 3 will win a title first?
jersey cubs fan replied to UMFan83's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I think the Bears could easily get right back to the top of the NFC next year. And given the nature of the NFL, where teams can go from the bottom to the top rather quickly, I think they'd be the best bet. The Cubs should be at the top of the list, because they are the only one of the three to have a distinct advantage by being located in Chicago (other than Bears HFA against certain opponents). But I just can't trust their management team to get the job done. -
The Cubs really abused the heck out of him the first time through. He was a guy with health issues in Pittsburgh, then he comes here and enjoys some success. Suddenly, he's going from 171 IP, to 203 and 251, followed by 232, then TJS. He was repeatedly thrown out there to pitch after long rain delays.
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Yes, but the fat old guy with foot problems is also a huge question mark. Seriously, he can't bear his own weight.
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The problem is most people want Marquis replaced in the rotation, now they just have two versions of him.
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Wouldn't it be great to have a rotation of Zambrano, Lilly, Marquis, Lieber and Dempster?
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Aside from the "I'm in favor of signing Lieber", this post is right on the money. So you'd rather have Prior sign for the same amount so that he can rehab until August, give us 2 months at most of pitching (for the first time in over 2 years mind you) and then let him go for nothing? Yes, I would always prefer to the outside chance for greatness over hoping some out of shape old mediocre pitcher can hang in there for most of the season.
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Yeah, if they gave him any real money, he's not competing for anything. He's got the spot. Hopefully they trade Marquis and/or Dempster.
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very very little When healthy he's been perfectly average. Blah, blah, blah. He's not healthy, hasn't been in years. There's no reason to think he can stay healthy. You have to do 2 things to earn your money as a pitcher, actually pitch, and pitch well. We don't know if he'll pitch well, but we can be fairly certain he won't actually pitch all year.
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A, becuase Jim Hendry is a bad GM, and B, because Jason Marquis is actually a decent bet to finish three straight seasons actually pitching. Lieber is a fatty who is old and can't stay healthy. He's shown no interest in maintaining his body with age, so nobody is going to interested in giving him money to flop around on the mound and hit the DL because his body can't handle his weight.
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very very little
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Extra room at the Hilton with passes(not looking for profit)
jersey cubs fan replied to Garwilly's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I miss the days when 5 to a room was no big deal. -
I think he was pretty good at his best. Unlike most Cubs pitchers, he didn't give away first base. But no, he isn't good anymore. I'm not sure why people are so certain "he can still pitch" and will be better than Marquis and Dempster. I think among the three you might find one who doesn't stink, but who knows which one that will be.
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The NFL Draft Thread (Formerly Early Entries for NFL Draft)
jersey cubs fan replied to soccer10k's topic in Other Sports
That's less about his talent and more about who is picking first, and the fact that their best player happens to be a RB. Who is coming off serious knee injury. -
Isn't it more about the need for catchers? Is Samardzija not on this list because he's on the 40-man roster, or because he's not going to be in major league camp?
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BBI is trading down 15% today. But that particular Blockbuster has been going down almost every day for 6 years now.
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The NFL Draft Thread (Formerly Early Entries for NFL Draft)
jersey cubs fan replied to soccer10k's topic in Other Sports
I've never heard anybody try to claim McFadden is as good as Peterson. Peterson was clearly the higher rated back, with the only question being health. -
Sure, ideally those are the positions you'd look at first. However, an improvement is an improvement and the Cubs are weak enough that it's possible to upgrade in more than those spots. I'd prefer a SS upgrade to anything else, but I'd prefer a 2B upgrade to status quo. It should be noted, that while 2B isn't an obvious need, they still don't have a single everyday 2B on the team. DeRosa is not and has never been an everyday player, let alone an everyday second baseman.
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I think some people are operating under the assumption that Lou has already seen the light on Dempster in the rotation and therefore, don't believe he will be starting. I'm not sure Marquis is a safer bet than Dempster though. I don't think Marquis is a good starter, but I'd bet quite a bit on him to outperform Dempster over the course of a full season. Back to back seasons of completely disastrous meltdowns, and being left off his team's playoff roster, may have taken a toll. I have zero confidence in Marquis. I don't have confidence in Dempster either, and don't think he'll actually start all year anyway, so I wouldn't take that specific bet. But if somebody committed to both of them all year long, I wouldn't put my money on either. Both are probably going to have a 5+ ERA and endure some excrutiating games.
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Yes, Hendry's strategy has typically been to go with what you got, and then wait to upgrade at the deadline. I hate the strategy. It eliminates any chance of running away with the division early, and having a truly great season. The Cubs are far too willing to try and tread water for 3 months instead of trying to be the best you can by April 1, and then working for improvements later. There isn't a realistic deal out there that will eliminate your chances of also improving in July. However, if you wait until July 31 you no longer have the chance to field the best team possible for the first 100 games.
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I think some people are operating under the assumption that Lou has already seen the light on Dempster in the rotation and therefore, don't believe he will be starting. I'm not sure Marquis is a safer bet than Dempster though.
