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What most people?
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But he's not overrated. He's considered one of the best pitchers of the game when he's healthy and consistent. And hes very very rarely consistent and healthy so in my opinion hes overrated. He would only be overrated if people claimed he was more healthy and consistently good than he is. You can't just use overrated as a way of describing a guy who is not a great 200 inning pitcher, unless people actually describe that person as a great 200 inning pitcher. He's flawed. He's far from an ideal starting pitcher. -
Since now that Harden's given up some runs and he needs to find someone to be pissed off about. Yea thats it. Lets ignore that little fact that he was terrible near the end of last year, and has been terrible this year. But yea your right Im just trying to find something to be pissed about. I still don't see how he's overrated. His weak spots are noted whenever he is discussed. If he's really healthy right now, it's a new part of his game (sucking while being healthy). It was widely acknowledged he was not 100% late last year but the Cubs needed him to pitch and hoped he would be there. That's part of the reason why I was hoping they would be more cautious at the start of this year, instead of just throwing him out there every 5th day and then letting his pitch counts increase steadily until something happened.
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I wouldn't assume he's healthy right now. But the fact is he was one of the greatest pitchers, when healthy. He wasn't regarded that way for nothing. This is not normal. At least not for healthy Harden. Nobody's been singing his praises this year.
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I think he's extremely inconsistent. Which is part of the reason hes overrated as hell. I don't know how he's overrated as hell. He was great for the Cubs last year. But everybody has always acknowledged that his weakness is staying healthy and being consistently effective.
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Time to revisit the Harden to the bullpen idea. He can't stay healthy as a full-time starter and he's had a few looks good early falls apart quickly outings.
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Who is this pervert on the radio? "I don't know if you've ever done blow by blow but it's pretty exciting for a 17-year old."
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I'm pretty sure a changeup is considered a "breaking ball" I've only heard the term used in reference to curve/slider, usually.... And even so, why wouldn't he just say changeup then? Changeup = offspeed. Breaking ball is curve, slider, slurge, screwball,... Not all changes are created equal. Some have more movement than others and could be considered breaking balls.
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Ozzie Guillen pulls a Dusty?
jersey cubs fan replied to Schwarber Fan's topic in General Baseball Talk
Actually, it really bugs me that he's been here for so long and sounds like he does. Why? -
Angelo isn't flip flopping on Plax. He had some quotes that one headline writer decided to frame as Jerry refusing to go after Plax, but it was very clear from the start he was open to the idea.
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Looks like it should be clearing out in an hour or two and might start pretty close to on-time. I wouldn't call you a bad fan for waiting on the weather but I'd just go ahead and plan on getting there at a normal time myself.
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Because he probably can't pitch everyday, or even every other day.
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DeRosa and Woody Return to Wrigley
jersey cubs fan replied to roadtotheshow's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I hope he does bad so it increases the chances the Cubs win. Why would you care about whether it "looks better" for the Cubs? Unless you're Hendry? -
I think the 150 appearances and 200 IP the last two years has taken its toll on his arm.
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Waddels gone, Im starting to trust Heilman again, and we know what Marmols capable of. As for Patton, that little experiment needs to come to an end. Im sure hed have no problem making it through waivers and if they really want him that bad, a deal could probably be worked out. If not, oh well. Why does it need to come to an end though? It's not like they are desperate for BP arms right now. They are desperate for roster spots for people who can hit the baseball. What happens when Freel is activated. Does Fox get sent down again because they insist on using 12 roster spots for pitchers without using 12 pitchers?
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I doubt that Harden is handled with kid gloves. He should be, but he wasn't to start this year. He went every 5th day and was having his pitch count extended, 99, 101, 112 in his last three starts before injury. They should have worked in more rest between starts early. Anyway, I don't think Pedro comes in as a starter. He's a spot starter and long reliever at this point if you ask me. He could have value to this team considering they insist on carrying 12 pitchers but have multiple ones they refuse to use.
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So there has been a bit of an uproar over the status of those who bought tickets for yesterday's action. A guy called into Mike Francesa (formerly of Mike and Mad Dog show) and said he'd paid $150 for his ticket and only saw a handful of players on a couple holes. Most people didn't even tee off, and those that did didn't go very far. The PGA is doing nothing to either reimburse or allow them to see another day. Francesa went ballistic as only he can, saying he'd make this the main story at 1:05 today (when his show starts) and come in on Saturday and make it the focus of the show. Apparantly now they are allowing people with Thursday tickets to come watch on Monday, if there is golf. Bad weather on Saturday should make that happen, and a tie in the final round would make it certain. But it's no guarantee. I think there has to be some sort of understanding when purchasing a ticket that weather can effect how much golf you see. But if all you get is 2 hours in the morning, there should be some sort of prorated reimbursement, opportunity to come back on Friday and/or tickets to next year's Open. Oh, and the leaders are still -1 while Tiger just finished round 1 +4. Phil is teeing off right now with Goosen and Els. Round two slated to begin at 4pm.
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Gooney, what is The Gorge ? Lou talking about Soriano's struggles, said you can have peaks and valleys, but he's been in a gorge. I was thinking about Gorgiano, but went with The Gorge.
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Who said it was because of injury? It probably is because of health concerns, because despite driving up PC fairly early, he's only 4th on the team in P/GS. He's only gone over 100 three times. Of course 2 of those times (preceded by a 99 pitch outing) led into his month long sabbatical. He's been pulled early after getting smacked around twice (3 IP and 3 2/3 IP) when he threw 92 and 86 pitches. So basically, he's a 95 pitch pitcher, and most of the time (this year) that has gotten him through 6.
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off topic, and not really a big deal, but what's with the cheap shot at Harden? he's only gone less than six innings twice in nine starts. that's hardly a "5-inning pitcher". i guess technically he's averaging less than six innings because of his two bad starts. I don't think it's a cheap shot, but it is a mischaracterization. The perception is that Harden can really only give you 5 and then you need the bullpen. In reality he averages pretty close to 6. So it's more like 5+ innings. But really, he's very likely to give you 6+ when he goes, the problem is he has been pulled after 3 a couple times this year, bringing down that average. And last year he did have 4 starters where he went exactly 5 and 2 more when he was pulled after getting an out or two in the 5th. I think it's a fair description, even if it's slightly inaccurate. You could call him a 5 2/3 inning pitcher, but that doesn't really flow well.
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How would you react to Kerry Wood this weekend?
jersey cubs fan replied to bukie's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I'd give a standing O as he comes out to the mound and as he makes his first pitch, but be more focused on what the Cubs do starting from then. I wouldn't cheer for strike outs or anything. -
Here's to The Gorge having some sort of positive impact.
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i'll be getting inebriated no matter what the cubs do...a win would just be icing on the cake. Yeah, I'll rejoice if the Cubs win and because it's Friday, but I'll get inebriated no matter the outcome, or the day for that matter.
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Something had to be lost in the translation there. Either Turner said, "Jay" instead of "Jerry" or the writer is blending two very different sentences into one.
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Re: Sale of Cubs to Ricketts Complete (p. 15)
jersey cubs fan replied to 17 Seconds's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
The economy tanked before he "won" the deal. Huh...seemed like longer ago than that. The announcement came in January 2009. The recession began in December 2007, the market collapse began in September/October 2008, with the lows coming in November. The lows were tested again in March 2009 then quickly began to rebound. Anyway, I doubt he's trying to stall his way out. Zell is a tough negotiator. Considering how he was trying to scam the state into buying Wrigley and selling the team seperately, and then doing whatever he could to frame the sale as tax friendly as possible, plus the broadcasting rights issue, it makes sense that Ricketts wouldn't just give in to every demand.
