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You are asking an unanswerable, and meaningless question. Beane was in charge. He's been in charge since 1997 and his results blow away Jim Hendry's results. Fuson and Ricciardi were gone for a long time. Oakland won a hell of a lot of games long after they left, at a better rate than the Cubs. How long does Beane get to be mired in mediocrity before we start to question if maybe the landscape has changed to the point where he's not as effective as he once was? He's at a .468 winning percentage the last 5 years and his roster and farm system don't look to be on the brink of breaking out of that funk. It might be that he would be just as effective as he used to be if he had the Cubs' resources, but it's a more than fair question to ask. It's kind of a pointless question. You can't answer it until he gets a better job. He's a GM who produced terrific results with an extremely low level of resources at his disposal. He wasn't able to maintain those terrific results into a second decade of extremely low resources. He's certainly a better option than Hendry. If you can find somebody better, go right ahead. -
Getting interesting. Saw this in on of those earlier links you listed: This guy has been in the pros since 2006. He may only be 23, but it's going to take a few years to turn him into a guy capable of throwing 100 pitches every fifth day. Doesn't he have to start going on 40-man rosters pretty soon? Isn't that likely something that will work against him in terms of the patience needed to have him stick as a starter.
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Ah, was going off perception rather than facts on that comment. It just seemed like I had seen a bunch of really cheap guys or guys signing for $3-4 million/yr. I'm just going off perception as well, it just seems every LCS team has a $1.2m reliever coming back from something or other and getting ready to cash-in on a stupid contract.
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That's really the average reliever salary? What's the median? I don't know the median either. There are some really high end contracts (Rivera, Cordero for example), but a ton of guys making next to nothing too. As a complete and utter guess, I'd say Kerry is probably on the lower end salary for veteran relievers though. Relievers seem to be either incredibly cheap or way too expensive. It's hard to find guys in the middle ground like Kerry is in. Really? I think there are plenty of $1-2m relievers out there.
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The Cubs have 28 games over the next 28 days, with one off day and off DH, the day after what would have been their other off day, which is now a rescheduled game vs Colorado. They haven't had an off day in 11 days. I wonder to what extent Quade will try and murder his starters while "protecting" his bullpen. If Wood goes on the DL, retroactive to his last outing on June 8, he should be back before that DH.
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That's really the average reliever salary? What's the median?
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You are asking an unanswerable, and meaningless question. Beane was in charge. He's been in charge since 1997 and his results blow away Jim Hendry's results. Fuson and Ricciardi were gone for a long time. Oakland won a hell of a lot of games long after they left, at a better rate than the Cubs.
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Tim trying harder than ever to support nonsensical pro hendry stance That's far more pro-Alderson than pro-Hendry. Really has nothing to do with Jim. Billy Beane has been GM of that team since October 1997. Starting in 2000 they won 90+ games in six of seven seasons, with a payroll that paled in comparison to the normal contenders. And that payroll has not grown in the years since. But you question whether Billy Beane deserves accolades for the job he did while supporting the notion that the Cubs should hang on to Jim Hendry because things could somehow get worse with a different GM. He had a terrific 9 year run, and dealt with no payroll. It's hard enough to find success for a season or two in their situation, you can't expect them to maintain dominance over a decade and a half.
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Tim trying harder than ever to support nonsensical pro hendry stance That's far more pro-Alderson than pro-Hendry. Really has nothing to do with Jim. Billy Beane has been GM of that team since October 1997. Starting in 2000 they won 90+ games in six of seven seasons, with a payroll that paled in comparison to the normal contenders. And that payroll has not grown in the years since. But you question whether Billy Beane deserves accolades for the job he did while supporting the notion that the Cubs should hang on to Jim Hendry because things could somehow get worse with a different GM.
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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 6-11-11
jersey cubs fan replied to Outshined_One's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Slumped? He's pretty much performed at the same rate he's performed throughout his pro career, fair to middlin. -
Tim trying harder than ever to support nonsensical pro hendry stance
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The notion that cashman is a better option because he has experience with a large budget and beans might not know how to use a large budget is baffling.
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How many losses have been tied to foolishly extending starting pitchers?
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6/10 Cubs (Z) @ PHI (Halladay) 6:05 CSN
jersey cubs fan replied to sweetpeteman's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
The crowd was laughing at quade -
6/10 Cubs (Z) @ PHI (Halladay) 6:05 CSN
jersey cubs fan replied to sweetpeteman's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Sarge? -
6/10 Cubs (Z) @ PHI (Halladay) 6:05 CSN
jersey cubs fan replied to sweetpeteman's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
This city doesn't like black people -
6/10 Cubs (Z) @ PHI (Halladay) 6:05 CSN
jersey cubs fan replied to sweetpeteman's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Quade is so dumb -
The cell blows on many levels.
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If it were possible I could get behind that, as it would maximize the potential usage of the triangle building area. Although I don't think it's completely necessary.
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Agreed, but it is far from a dump IMO. From the player's perspective, it's a dump I thought it was charming, then I took a trip to Fenway. Now I think it's a dump. You mentioned the players, and that is true because they see a side of Wrigley we rarely do. The clubhouses and general underbelly of the place is apparently a major mess. I went to Fenway before their renovations, and it was much more of a dump than Wrigley currently is.
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Did he have a stroke recently? I guess I hadn't seen him in a while, but he was really struggling on the live draft coverage. Totally sad. It was probably 5 years ago. Those things have lasting effects.
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Well then you just aren't remembering accurately. He did a lot of things wrong, like hiring Lynch and Hendry and allowing Baker to come here. But he did spend and allow spending, he just got weird about it at times. What major free agents did the Cubs acquire during his entire time with the Cubs? Was Alou the biggest one? MacPhail did allow spending but he wasn't willing to spend on any one player. It was a widely played story that one of the biggest reasons why the Cubs were suddenly landing free agents in the 2006-2007 offseason was because MacPhail was gone. It could be that all those reports are wrong (and I think they are probably slightly overplayed), but they are out there. I recall the Cubs "finishing" second in the bidding for a lot of major free agents. They were willing to spend big money, just not obscene money that it usually takes to land one of those guys. That and they did have one of their own "those guys" in Sosa.
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Well then you just aren't remembering accurately. He did a lot of things wrong, like hiring Lynch and Hendry and allowing Baker to come here. But he did spend and allow spending, he just got weird about it at times. What major free agents did the Cubs acquire during his entire time with the Cubs? Was Alou the biggest one? MacPhail did allow spending but he wasn't willing to spend on any one player. It was a widely played story that one of the biggest reasons why the Cubs were suddenly landing free agents in the 2006-2007 offseason was because MacPhail was gone. It could be that all those reports are wrong (and I think they are probably slightly overplayed), but they are out there. He went hard after Hampton. Then after the fact probably felt it was a bad idea and got gunshy. They really couldn't go after the one big guy because they had no small wage earners of their own that could offset the higher cost of stars. They had to pay for every hit. It was a wildly inefficient model.
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Well then you just aren't remembering accurately. He did a lot of things wrong, like hiring Lynch and Hendry and allowing Baker to come here. But he did spend and allow spending, he just got weird about it at times. I remember he was willing to offer a rather ungodly deal to Mike Hampton and how annoyed the Tribune Cubs message boards were that Colorado overbid. They gave Sosa what was the standard superstar player contract, they plucked other team's too expensive players and expanded payroll substantially as soon as the results began to show up. The whole plan was to draft and develop pitchers and go out and pay for bats. The problem at the time was the organization was completely ignorant of the inefficiences of the "be aggressive" mentality at the plate and the run production was consistently held down by a lack of walks. They didn't seem to put much thought into the inevitable decline of 35 year old position players. They were done in by the complete lack of any homegrown bats, because they had to spend to fill holes that should be filled by your minimum wage earning prospects.
