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The TOR (Top of Rotation) pitching options
Backtobanks replied to spaincubsfan's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I'm not sure about that price, but I'd like Cashner if he can be had relatively cheaply. Do you mean that the Pads would want more? Or maybe both teams add other pieces to balance out the deal in terms of control of the players involved. The Pads will be tanking this year so they might want to keep Cashner around in the hope of a bigger payoff at the deadline. I'm saying I wouldn't give them up. he's pretty MEH, is 29, and only has a year of control left. I've posted a few times that the guy running MLBTR chat a few weeks ago thought that Cashner could be had for an insignificant prospect (his words) because of what you said. If that is the case, I definitely would love to pick up Cashner. -
From MLBTR: After adding Todd Frazier, Bruce Levine of CBS Chicago wonders if the White Sox will grab another big bat off of the free agent market. Justin Upton and Yoenis Cespedes are potential targets for Chicago, but Alex Gordon makes the most sense for the White Sox, in Levine’s estimation. If you add one of these three, suddenly the WS are looking pretty good. That would certainly solidify the offense to go with Sale, Quintana, and Rodon in the rotation.
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Still waiting for another deal involving Baez or Soler. I'd be surprised if Baez is dealt with Castro gone. Not real excited about moving Soler right now either considering the cost to acquire young controllable elite starting pitching. I don't think Baez is going to see as much playing time on the Cubs as many of you seem to think. He's an unknown about any OF position and Zobrist, Russell, and Bryant aren't coming out of the lineup (barring injury) very often. Soler dealt for young pitching with a prospect deal for a CF (Blackmon?) would move Heyward to RF and make a lot of sense.
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Still waiting for another deal involving Baez or Soler.
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2015 Winter Meetings Thread
Backtobanks replied to Derwood's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Trade for Norris would need a taker for Montero to clear enough salary for Heyward. -
Cubs Sign Zobrist - 4/$56M
Backtobanks replied to David's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
I think Ruggiano would be a good addition - can play all 3 OF positions. -
Depends on what we get for Castro. We still need a CF and possibly a SP and we still have a shaky OF with Schwarber and Soler.
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Castro for Warren + Sanchez tied to Montero to Rangers for Tolleson (or other young relief pitcher)? Free up lots of money for Zobrist or Heyward/Gordon/Upton.
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Is that the 1890s or 1990s?
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That's why I don't understand so many posters getting excited about Heyward or Gordon. I figure we have around $14 million after signing Lackey with a few more holes to fill, so I can't see Heyward/Gordon playing for a backloaded contract paying about $10 million next year. Also, I don't understand the closer rumors, unless it's part of a package deal getting a CF and/or SP also.
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6 yrs of Baez for one year of Strasburg? I'll pass Not that I wouldn't deal him, but he'd need to be included as part of a package in deal for a controllable young starter like Carrasco. Otherwise, I'd rather just buy pitching or use the minor league system to acquire it. Rotoworld has Baez at five years. Five years of boom or bust Baez for one year of Strasburg, who looked great the final two months of the season, isn't anything to sneeze at. Especially considering if Strasburg left we'd get a comp pick in return and Baez leaving doesn't open up a hole on the roster. Also I'd love a chance at buying low on Cashner. If Almora or McKinney could be turned into Cashner I make the deal in a second. From 11/27 The guy running the MLBTR chat that day certainly made it sound like we could get Cashner for something less than Almora/McKinney (of course that is his opinion).
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The 2016 Bullpen
Backtobanks replied to Transmogrified Tiger's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
I remember reading they were interested in moving him so they could make Betances the closer earlier this offseason. He's really expensive for a reliever, but i like what he offers a whole lot. If they were to offer some salary relief I'd be all about Andrew Miller. Maybe a blockbuster Gardner + Miller for Castro + Hammel + Wood. Follow up with a trade of Soler for Salazar. Money for next year stays pretty even. Follow up by signing a RF (Parra?) or trade prospects for a decent (reasonably cheap and/or young) RF. Position players - Rizzo, Baez, Russell, Bryant, Schwarber, Gardner, Parra/????, Montero. Rotation- Arrieta, Lester, Lackey, Salazar, Hendricks Bullpen- Miller, Rondon, Strop, Grimm, Richard, Ramirez, Edwards, Medina, Rosscup, Acevedo, Brothers, Cook, Leathersich, Patton -
If I recall correctly, they were trying to get Taijuan Walker from SEA for Ozuna and didn't think Paxton was enough. That's a very high price tag. They can ask for the sky, but if enough teams reject them they might settle for something more reasonable.
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I'm thinking Heyward and Gordon are way too expensive for our budget. I agree that Ozuna would be a great pickup for CF or RF (if we trade Soler). Keeping Soler, we can put Ozuna in CF and trade Baez for pitching.
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We might be able to afford bringing Fowler back and then trading Baez for a young pitcher.
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Certainly not the Cubs.
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Might be able to re-sign Fowler with what's left and then trade Baez for a young pitcher.
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If he can do it, it's a cheap fix for CF. If he's only okay, it adds to Joe's versatility plan or to his trade value.
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I'm sure Pollock isn't available. If he was, Baez, Castro, Almora and a second tier pitching prospect seems like a good start.
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Sign Gavin Floyd and Mike Minor, trade for BJ Upton. 2 SP and a CF - done.
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How much money of the $33 million owed to Upton are they sending us?
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http://www.21cpw.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/d1Z-thats-not-how-it-works-thats-not-how-any-of-this-works.jpg It's starting to look like it. Every pitcher that signs seems to be jacking up the price the ones still out there. whose price has gotten jacked up aside from a huge AAV rumor about greinke and a rumor about samardzija? zimmerman and price both got what was expected. Price & Zimmerman set the market price and it certainly jacked up Greinke and Samardzija (at least according to the rumors). Cueto looks like he's asking for more than most expected. If Samardzija gets $100 million, I would think Leake and Chen would try to get an extra few million.
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http://www.21cpw.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/d1Z-thats-not-how-it-works-thats-not-how-any-of-this-works.jpg It's starting to look like it. Every pitcher that signs seems to be jacking up the price the ones still out there.
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Make my original trade ( blockbuster package together for Quintana and Eaton. Baez, Almora/McKinney, Vogelbach, Underwood, ????????) Trade Soler for Salazar. Sign Heyward/Upton/Gordon for RF. Rizzo, Castro, Russell, Bryant, Schwarber, Eaton, Heyward/Upton/Gordon, Montero with a rotation of Arrieta, Lester, Quintana, Salazar, Hendricks, Hammel. Still should have enough money to tweak the bullpen and the bench.
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If you're going to sign a FA pitcher, hurry up and do it because the way this market is going Leake, Chen, and Lackey are going to start asking for $100 million too.