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Cubs Sign Mike Freeman, Kyle Ryan To Minor League Deals, so no wonder the odds improved. Signing Freeman probably killed all of the Machado trade rumors too. =D>
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Not necessarily true with the Cubs, Yankees, and Twins in on Darvish, two of those teams may move on Jake after Darvish signs. Also we don't know how deflated the market is until a few of the big names sign. The agents and the teams are taking a strong stance on the market prices, but we'll see who blinks first.
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The Cubs don't have to make any other moves to win their division and get into the playoffs. Obviously their current roster would come up short in the playoffs, so making a deal at the deadline (or waiting for FA prices to go down) actually isn't a terrible idea.
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From MLBTR: Reports early in the offseason suggested that Cobb was seeking upwards of $100MM over a five-year term, though FanRag’s Jon Heyman recently wrote that Cobb is now believed “willing” to sign a four-year deal at a total of $70MM or a five-year deal worth $80MM. Despite a fairly robust group of potential landing spots, those numbers range from ambitious ($70-80MM) to outlandish ($100MM), in my view.
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I can't believe Avila will sign with us to back up Contreras. Somebody will offer him more money and more playing time.
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Wade Davis Signs with the Rockies, 3/$52 M
Backtobanks replied to Liam Neeson's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
In some cases, I think we may be looking at multiples.... Trade for Machado, sign Reed, plus a cheap starter to compete with Monty Trade for Archer, sign Reed, replenish what we lost in trade Trade for Yelich, sign Cobb, replace traded parts Sign Cobb and Reed Sign Yu and be done I think these are kind of our general options. Guess I should add trade for Colome and sign one of Yu, Jake, or Cobb as an option, since its in Levine's latest article as a possibility. Why are you using "or"? Why not sign and trade for everybody. :yahoo: -
Wade Davis Signs with the Rockies, 3/$52 M
Backtobanks replied to Liam Neeson's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
In some cases, I think we may be looking at multiples.... Trade for Machado, sign Reed, plus a cheap starter to compete with Monty Trade for Archer, sign Reed, replenish what we lost in trade Trade for Yelich, sign Cobb, replace traded parts Sign Cobb and Reed Sign Yu and be done I think these are kind of our general options. Hope you're right. -
From yesterday's MLBTR chat: "I am the walrus 5:57 Cubs trade Happ, Russell, Carantini and Alzolay for Archer. Done deal? Jason Martinez 5:58 That would get it done. I don't think the Cubs would offer that much and I don't they'd have to offer that much. Happ, Caratini, Alzolay and another prospect, maybe." So Happ, Caratini, Alzolay, and another prospect for Archer? :beg:
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The only reason Jake is in any dicussion is because he would get less years and money than Darvish. If the years and money are the same, either Jake's agent needs a big raise or Yu's agent needs to be fired.
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Signing Darvish isn't a sure thing and those relievers are going fast.
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We could hope MLB goes to an offense and a defense like the NFL. Heyward could have trade value as a defensive specialist.
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There may be a big market for RFs who play great defense and hit like 160 lb. middle infielders.
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EDIT: Could've left this one out of the discussion there, guy. Yeah, the odds of the Cubs signing Harper are a whole lot better than the odds of Heyward opting for FA.
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I think the line of thinking is, 1. Cubs were “out” on front line high dollar and years FA pitchers this offseason, 2. Cubs are now “in” on dervish, Ergo, Darvish’s years or AAV must be down. That’s not the only reason the Cubs could be in now. Yeah, they might realize that they still need that TOR starter and the cost in trade assets is too high.
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I am not sure Jake is going to get more than Darvish but i think Jake has not given signs of coming down from his asking price and Darvish may have. That is why the Cubs are after Darvish now IMO. I think Darvish is the better pitcher going forward so if it were me i sign Darvish. I still haven't seen any indication that Darvish "may have" reduced his asking price. Darvish is obviously the better pitcher going forward, but if the numbers end up (not that they will) with Darvish @ 6 yrs/$160 mil. and Arrieta @ 4 yrs./$90 mil. it might be a tough decision.
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lol what other stuff "Well we can't offer Addison Russell but you could have [squints at our top 30] Bobson Dugnutt?" Well we sure aren't gonna trade Steve McDichael, are we? More seriously, Happ, Almora, and Montgomery are the names that leap to mind, though not all of them. If that's not enough to sway Baltimore, I'm okay missing out on one year of Machado and still having the best infield in the game. Apparently the Orioles were holding out for KB, Contreras, and Rizzo to be included.
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Got excited there for a minute thinking they might want Heyward LOL: "Jon Heyman of Fan Rag adds some further details to the situation in a follow-up to Encina’s report. The offers for Machado haven’t been sufficient to this point in Baltimore’s eyes, and the organization will take him off the market in the coming days if the asking price isn’t met. Of course, Heyman also notes that there’s no “hard deadline;” rather, the O’s would “shift to other priorities” if there’s no momentum toward a trade. Interestingly, per Heyman, the O’s see the Jason Heyward–Shelby Miller swap as the kind of arrangement that would pique their interest."
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From MLBTR: Eduardo A. Encina of the Baltimore Sun reports that if the Orioles are to trade Machado, they hope to come to an agreement with a team by the end of the week. Baltimore isn’t backing down off its asking price of two starting pitchers that it can control for “at least the next four or five years,” Machado will be in Baltimore as long as the asking price stays the same.
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There's no indication that his asking price has dropped. Actually since a lot of the top SP are still available may strengthen his case for more money. When one or two sign, then FAs start to worry and possibly settle for less. i don't disagree that his asking price hasn't necessarily dropped quite yet but... Obviously someone has to be the first to sign, but usually the first pretty much sets the market. The top SP might sign first, but I doubt that he would take a discount. If Arrieta and/or Cobb signed at a reduced rate first, it might force Darvish to rethink his asking price.
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There's no indication that his asking price has dropped. Actually since a lot of the top SP are still available may strengthen his case for more money. When one or two sign, then FAs start to worry and possibly settle for less.
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Hendriks was busy.
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Well we did trade the guy who is a couple of places behind him.
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That's true, but I think there would be a better chance of extending Machado (after being on the team) than bidding on him as a FA. Why? He would get to know the other players, the fans, Maddon, the city, the FO, etc. As a FA, everyone is promising everything and he might not know how he would relate to his teammates, the city, etc.
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Of course that's assuming Harper accepts our offer over the 4 or 5 other $400 million offers on the table. But then nothing would preclude the Cubs from signing Machado instead and trading Russell then. Or just keep Russel and Machado and move KB to left. That's true, but I think there would be a better chance of extending Machado (after being on the team) than bidding on him as a FA.
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Of course that's assuming Harper accepts our offer over the 4 or 5 other $400 million offers on the table.