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Get back in the tank. There’s no point trying to win 82 games in 2023. Don't worry, they won't.
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I’m old enough to remember when the Only Hope was Carlos Correa Not that I’m super optimistic but the meat of the ideal offseason, as I saw/sees it, is available…Swanson, Rodon, Varsho, Luzardo, Ohtani, even Matt Moore Edit: Phone is trying to get me to buy a new one…weird I meant Jed's only hope to possibly save his job, not the only hope to build a championship team (because that ain't happening)
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That's Jed's only hope left - swing a blockbuster trade or two. Ohtani, Jansen, Lopez, Reynolds, Deevers, Varsho, etc. might be available for the right package of prospects.
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but there are lots of guys who would still have fit into an efficiency plan with more bulk. jed can't be scared of 2 year deals. I mean the obvious answer to your question is that the offseason is not done yet, particularly in the "guys who will settle for 1-2 year deal" range. Like I'm nervous about who the other SP is going to be, since that's a position that's been picked over pretty good, but otherwise IMO it's just wait and see what happens with the shortstops before getting too depressed or elated. IMO it's telling that Jed was expedient in addressing CF, the thinnest position in FA. Then Jed needs to swing a blockbuster trade or two using some of those prospects that we seem reluctant to deal.
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The Cubs have had a good enough off season to solidify their hold on 3rd place in the NL Central.
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But we'll give Swanson 8 years? I don't want to even hypothetically defend the Cubs but... You're implying they're similar in age, position, and injury history, which is incorrect on all 3. I totally understand those points, but my point is that they seem willing to go to 8 years for a SS that that is a slight improvement over the current SS.
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But we'll give Swanson 8 years?
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$200,000,000 / 8 yrs. for Swanson?????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Still worth it But this time the "LH outfielder" will be in the best shape of his life Also he is sure to have fully reworked his swing during spring training. ... seventh time is a charm ... Let's hope so.
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So, it cost us $39 million to trade Heyward for Bellinger and we still might end up with a weak hitting LH outfielder?
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Yeah, I don't see 70-75 wins as being likely even if we did essentially nothing. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-absurdly-preliminary-2023-zips-projected-standings/ ZiPS put us at 74 before any team in the division has made any moves. I believe this takes the Brewers trade of Renfroe into account but that's it. The club will project just over .500 even with a boring and efficient offseason, the question is if Jed is gonna have the stones to stretch and get the team into the upper 80's. Depends on what you call a "boring and efficient offseason". They haven't filled any of their numerous holes yet, so they are far from being projected to be over .500.
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That'll work.
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I'm good with this. Try to get another SP and then add a catcher and fiddle around with the bullpen.
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nuh uh According to MLB Trade Values, Varsho is 74.5 and Reynolds is 59.9 which is at least one very good prospect (Alzolay, Hernandez, etc.) difference.
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I suggested going after Reynolds the other day. He would cost less in prospects than Varsho and is controllable until 2026. He could certainly help the team until some of the OF prospects are ready.
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It would take Thompson plus 3-4 more prospects yo get Varsho. According to MLB trade values, Varsho is 74.5 and Thompson is at 8,3.
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Holy horsefeathers...maybe we could get Varsho or someone else good to play CF in return for Thompson if the premium for pitchers is that high. It would take Thompson plus 3-4 more prospects yo get Varsho.
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He sounds like a weatherman (it might rain, but maybe not). He's hearing more about Swanson and Turner than Correa and Bogaerts, but that could change. Are they going to write a "big check" and he said he doesn't know, and it depends how big the check is going to be.
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I totally agree with this. It's time to be proactive and use the assets (money and prospects) to actually build a contending team now. Waiting for years for prospects to reach their potentials is getting old when they suffer injuries and never really perform as we have hoped.
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I know the price would be higher for a rival, but any of those guys would be perfect fits for the Cubs.
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Probably worth noting if Cubs are both locked into Senga but need him to wait patiently for the real heroes to develop and show up The Cubs have the assets (money and prospects) to be a big market team with a chance to win now. Signing Senga, adding someone like Bellinger, maybe adding a tier 2 starter, sign Vasquez, and a smart trade or two makes us a solid team with a chance to win now.
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A Cubs Future built around Pirates and Mets? Let Theo rest in peace man, enough with the curses Just making suggestions that might actually help the Cubs become competitive instead of dancing around picking up players from the dollar store.
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If we're serious about winning, go get Brian Reynolds and quit worrying about CF for a few years. Using MLB trade values as a source, maybe a deal involving Davis, Morel, and Thompson. Once PCA is ready, move Reynolds over to left and trade Happ.
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Dodgers waived Bellinger, now is the time to sign him to a 1-year deal to reestablish his value. Gives the Cubs time to ease Davis and Mervis into the starting lineup.
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27 year old 2nd baseman who had a cup of coffee in the bigs last year? Ok baseball people, tell me why this is something to maybe get excited about. Reading all of the comments, it seems like the reason to get excited is that he still has options left.