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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS RT @Joelsherman1 Fangraph's UZR-150 has Ichiro by far MLB best def OF. not sure about system since 2d best is Al. Soriano
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Depending on what other prospects are involved besides Turner, that could be a really great deal for the Tigers.
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Jeff Baker ***ducks*** Really, I'd like to see them trade Vitters while is value is high and get as much quality as they could. Then I'd immediately move Baez to 3rd in MiLB I don't think Jeff Baker as a throw-in in a Garza for 2 of Lee/Eovaldi/Rubby is that ridiculous; the Dodgers still need bats, especially in the infield. I wouldn't include Vitters in any package with Garza, unless it is to get an uber prospect who could conceivably step right in at 3B (e.g., Mike Olt). There's no reason to give him up to the Dodgers though, both because I don't think it's necessary and because Vitters' value as a prospect probably isn't as high as it will/could be this winter.
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I honestly think Dempster's agent is just trying to coax a promise of an extension out of the Braves (via the Cubs) before agreeing to waive his no-trade rights and that although there is no "trade" to speak of, the Braves and Cubs have come to terms on what players would be involved if/when Dempster waives said rights. This isn't particularly profound given that no-trade clauses are meant to do just this very thing (and not to "block" trades, necessarily). Of course, I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night and am limited to the same Twitter as everyone else, so who the heck knows.
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Maybe the Cubs and Braves have agreed on the terms and parameters of the deal but are still waiting on Dempster waiving his no-trade rights.
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I could see Garza for Lee AND Eovaldi, potentially. In that situation I'd guess we might have to throw them something else, but I'd guess the any deal with the Dodgers involving Garza would also have to involve at least 2 of Lee / Eovaldi / Rubby.
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Worth noting that the Dodgers are (probably) rushing Lee pretty hard. Kid's still just 20 and should still be in A+, if not A. He basically starting sucking the minute he was promoted to AA a few weeks ago. Even in A and A+, his K rates and K:B ratios were good, but not incredible, and he still managed to give up 60 hits in 55 innings in A+. Long story short, difficult to get a 'true' read on how good of a prospect Lee is considering his youth and lack of hasty promotion history.
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Oh hey Real Travis Wood, there you are.
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I'd love Eovaldi, but I just have a hard time seeing the Dodgers giving up a guy who's already in their ML rotation. The Braves are the most intriguing trade candidate to me, given how awful Jair Jurrjens is and how many young, not-quite-ready-for-the-show SPs they have waiting in the wings. Although Teheran's stock has fallen somewhat, from what I understood scouts still see him as a #2-type starter. Goldstein said on a recent prospect that he'd probably rank Teheran between 11-20 as opposed to top 5 or 10 overall (or wherever he was ranked this time last year).
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meh, the guys they gave up aren't the guys they would have to give up to get garza. their system is plenty deep and they have enough quality to get garza if they want him. their rotation is still not very good - happ is a marginal back-end guy. if that was all they wanted (an upgrade to j.a. happ) then there's nothing the cubs could really do about it. Could be wrong, but I think Truffle was referring to the Jays' recent swoon taking them out of the Buyers category and not their 10-player trade with Houston.
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Jon Morosi @jonmorosi BREAKING: Source tells http://FOXSports.com #Rockies close to sending Jeremy Guthrie to #Royals for Jonathan Sanchez.
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Hopefully good news for us. The Red Sox definitely should be buyers at the deadline given the players coming back from injury and their current run differential.
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No way would they give up both Barnes and Bradley in a trade for Garza.
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Prospects who were never Cubs
Have a seat, Neifi replied to TruffleShuffle's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
D'backs send Bauer back down to AAA. (This thread seemed like just as good as any to post this.) -
I assume our front office would begin any discussions with LAA with Cowart and/or Cron.
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Justin Upton
Have a seat, Neifi replied to davell's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
I'd love to see Upton on the Cubs, but I can't get past my burning skepticism every time I ask myself, "Why is a team still in contention, that made the playoffs last year, so eager to trade its best player where that player happens to be 24, coming off an .898 OPS season, and is still cost controlled?" It's either the shoulder, some sort of friction with the front office, or both. The whole thing screams to me "proceed with caution." That said, The D'backs are not going to accept a pile of crap for him. This isn't Baseball Mogul; we can't overload them with a bunch of guys none of whom are named Castro or Baez and expect to acquire a 24-year old who finished 4th in MVP balloting last year. -
Garza for Olt straight-up is one of those rare trades where I'm fairly sure both sides would say no.
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Castellanos was just promoted to AA and has only played 31 games at that level, posting a .302/.311/.465 line with a K:BB ratio of 31:3. Granted he's still just 20, but he's not a sure thing at all. Given the failure rate of prospects and the viable window for the the Tigers' ML club, Castellanos really shouldn't be off limits in a trade for a quality SP like Garza or even Dempster. Olt on the other hand is much older (24) has absolutely raked in AA this year. He's probably ML-ready right now.
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Aside from this, many 3B prospects end up as major league 2B. Man Baez at second is exciting. The Cubs are years away too. Baez was drafted as a SS, but his size and power potential project him to play 3B. Baez probably will end up at 3B at some point, but again, we're talking years from now. If we snag Olt or Castellanos in a trade now, and then in 2015 or so Baez is raking in AAA, that'd be a great problem to have. Trade Olt or Castellanos while they're still arby eligible for a massive haul and call up Baez to take his place, or trade Baez to fill another hole on the roster. Bottom line, we'd have 2 assets that could help us win when the team is positioned to do so. The Cubs clearly aren't winning this year and probably not next year. 2014 and on is a reasonable window based on the talent level in the organization and where that talent is on the development curve. Baez is still a huge question mark to ever be a part of a major league roster, much less that he'll be ready to contribute at a high level at the precise time we'll need him. Again, if we're lucky, we'll have the same "problem" with Vogelbach vis-a-vis Rizzo in 3 years.
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what 3b prospect is that? 2 questions: 1. The FO has just started looking in earnestat minor league players at the lower levels of almost every farm system? 2. What about Baez? Baez has played all of 40 games in A ball. Kid's years away.
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Why? It's not like the Phillies are going to do a full on rebuild. We're talking one of the best young pitchers in baseball here. Is this a serious post? Amaro has been awful and has basically doomed the Phillies to high-payroll suckitude for the foreseeable future.
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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 7-12-12
Have a seat, Neifi replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
B-Jax 0/0 with 2 BBs. -
Brett Taylor @BleacherNation That would be fantastic. RT @ChiTribRogers: Overheard in KC: Rangers waiting on Cole Hamels but also possible Ryan Dempster team.
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Profar for Garza? Um wow, no. Maybe if we threw in Castro and Baez.
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Almora is done: Jim Callis @jimcallisBA #Cubs agree w/1st-rder Albert Almora on $3.9 mil (pick value=$3.25 mil). Florida HS OF w/lots of tools & polish. #mlbdraft