I grandfathered the term from an earlier post by a different person. A mistake I vaguely acknowledged by stating that he was, indeed, trending upwards. A realization I came to once I looked closer at his numbers. If you want formal recognition of the inaccuracy of the 'washed up' statement, there it is. And even more to the point, the fact that Kendall was improving was clearly being demonstrated in the numbers he was putting up, as Meph said, in the weeks prior to the trade. If they had passed on Kendall, despite the numerical evidence of improvement based on the limited time he was scouted, what would you say then? The numbers don't lie as long as they are viewed with an open mind and held within the context of the player and his environment. They should not be used like a drunkard uses a lamp post, for support rather than illumination, as someone once said. Sweeping generalization that doesn't serve any purpose other than to insult and alienate. There are people here who disagreed with the Kendall trade. There were people here who agreed with it. But very few people on this board are actively sabermetric. People latch on to whatever superficial analysis suits their already formed opinion on the matter. But it's rather deplorable to lump people who actually know what they're they're talking about with random dudes who say 'his numbers suck, he sucks'. Find me these people. PLEASE. 1. I watch and attend lots of baseball games at all different levels. Live baseball is one of my favorite things in the whole wide world. Don't attempt to chastise me for making assumptions about you (ones informed by your remarks, mind you) and then turn around and make silly assumptions about me that, rather than being based on anything here, are based on your assumptions and obtuse generalizations about a group of people that really do not exist. 2. Enough of the catfighting. It makes both of us look bad and doesn't do anything to advance the discussion. I was just as wrong for being condescending as much as you were. I'll let it go if you will. Dead wrong about what, exactly? I implore you to go find the part where I said that the Kendall trade was a bad one, if that's what you're implying. Otherwise, I have no idea what you're talking about, other than the aforementioned mischaracterization of Kendall's play in Oakland. I don't think many would protest, those that grasp the concepts appropriately, that stats don't always tell the whole story. I think the argument really rests in the degree to how much of the story can be told by the stats. But mainly that has to do with the difference between skill and ability. Scouting identifies skill (speed, strength, awareness, etc.) whereas statistics, which in the more advanced metrics are becoming more and more accurate, identify ability. Ability that is displayed by the record of their accomplishments: stats.