He's really not, but ok. See what you say in June when he's blown three or four saves. I'd rather have Ceda on the roster. So the fact that you'd rather have Ceda on the roster is justification for saying he's brutal? He's not. Your made up hypothetical isn't really much support for your case either. No I made my point on the number of walks/9 innings Gregg has had over the last two years and the number blown saves that Gregg has amassed in his short time as a closer. Also, I don't need any support, this thread is about small sample size, but whatever, he sucks. You didn't say anything about walks or his blown saves during his time as a closer. You threw out a hypothetical about his blown saves by June. I named Wood because he was a very good closer for us last year, and was in the same situation as "brutal" Kevin Gregg was in your hypothetical. Gregg may be good, and Gregg may be bad. But if he has 4 blown saves by June, it doesn't mean squat. And that was the point of my post. EDIT: Oops, didn't quote the right one. Meant to quote your reply to my post...oh well.