He also had a dumb manager, whos team regularly made head scratching moves on the basepaths and defensively. Well no question, but I'm not talking about he attempted a steal when he shouldn't have. He made a lot of stupid plays that the manager had nothing to do with. That's true, but Theriot has made a lot of [expletive] moves as well, but those were "gutsy". The biggest one against Cedeno was sliding past the bag on ball 4. But that was more weird than stupid. That's of course the most memorable. But there was a lot more than that. I can't make an argument about Theriot vs Cedeno in a competition of stupidity on the baseball field, mainly because it's been long enough that I don't remember most of them. But I was a guy that was rooting for Cedeno to do well, and he just kept letting mental lapses get in the way.