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They are clearly better, but either way that was a terrible throw on the INT bad defense or not McCown makes the same throw. Nobody was open underneath. Nice try. Is your only response not that it was a bad throw/decision, but McCown makes the same one? Maybe McCown throws the ball away or something else. But you can't say McCown makes the same throw when his INT % is 6 times less. Maybe McCown doesn't march them down like Cutler did, but seeing what we saw of McCown that throw doesn't happen with him as much as it does with Cutler. McCown made the same throw last week and a Marshall tip saved it from being a pick. Nice try.

They are clearly better, but either way that was a terrible throw on the INT bad defense or not Not just talking about that. Media has a tendency to ignore defensive differences when analyzing overall offensive performance. See Biggs, Brad.

is Forte hurt?

it's going to be fun when everybody ignores the difference between the Cowboys defense and the Browns defense when discussing this game.

BEARS-BROWNS INACTIVES: Bears: QB Jordan Palmer, S Sean Cattouse, LB Lance Briggs, DT Christian Tupou, OT/OG James Brown, OT Jonathan Scott, DE Cornelius Washington. Browns: QB Alex Tanney, RB Willis McGahee, OL Martin Wallace, OL Reid Fragel, TEs Keavon Milton, TE Andre Smith.

I've got to make a point to watch when the Bulls play the Knicks. And it's not to watch the Bulls.

Probably for the same reason you poke your head in here and contribute nothing to the conversation. I'm sure Packers fans want Jay to start Sunday and the rest of the year if healthy, prefer to sign him to a long-term extension, and repeatedly point out that Jay has far more talent that McCown. There is very little to what I'm saying that goes against the grain. There is nothing revolutionary to interpreting Jay as being fed up with the McCown love when he was quick to point out that his fellow teammate, the NFC player of the week who just played one of the best QB'd games in Bears history made some bad throws. Jay went out of his way to say it. Jay is right! There is nothing revolutionary in saying that Josh McCown, the NFC player of the week, made some bad throws this week.

Oh yay! Can we pretty please have an argument over the definition of "well", "good", "great" and "game for the ages"?

Holmes is obviously a Bernstein protege, but he's completely not a dick to callers. He's actually really tolerant generally, and probably listens to callers a little closer than most hosts.

Oh, you noticed that I didn't interpret things that he didn't say into the statement, eh? That was the point. Parsing hidden meaning is a useless exercise that I won't participate in. It really wasn't hidden at all Not to your keen interpretive mind.

Oh, you noticed that I didn't interpret things that he didn't say into the statement, eh? That was the point. Parsing hidden meaning is a useless exercise that I won't participate in.

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Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling. Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest. How do we help you not make up "hidden meaning"? Give me what your interpretation is, just not what mine isn't. My interpretation is that Jay thinks that McCown had a really good last game, and that Josh made some mistakes and had some throws he'd like to have back.

Right. We're fine with judgement calls all over the place in baseball. Did the ball beat the runner? Infield fly? Balks? But a home plate collision...that's too subjective.

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling. Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest. How do we help you not make up "hidden meaning"?

Well one...why would what the NFL does have bearing on the MLB? You don't think they can judge a collision at home plate because they can't figure out what a catch is in the NFL? And two, this is (apparently) the same rule that is already in play at 3 other bases. Are you outraged over those? No faith does not equal outrage. Collisions at home plate are not equal to making a catch in football. Collisions at home plate can be considered somewhat equal to collisions in football, like the defenseless receiver rule or contacting the qb at the shoulder or above or down at the knees. When a guys foot gets tangled up on the slide, the umpiring crew will have to make a determination as to whether the runner caused the contact with a questionable slide or the catcher caused the contact with a partial blockage of the plate. If you think these will just be simple black and white calls, you are likely mistaken. Calls like this are subjective as to intent, and they blow those constantly with the new rules in football. I don't really see how they can avoid it in baseball. The umpires blow calls in baseball now as it is and now they have something else they have to watch for, which probably means more missed close calls at the plate. I really think you're making this out to be far, far more complicated than it will be. How many plate collisions occur each year in baseball? Is that a stat that's kept somewhere? I can't imagine it's really all that many.

Soccer is just like hockey but with 10x fewer scoring chances and more crying I can enjoy soccer, but the game speed is much much slower.

This is sarcasm, right? How would you interpret Jay's comments? DONNNNNN'T CAARRRRRREEEEE

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Well one...why would what the NFL does have bearing on the MLB? You don't think they can judge a collision at home plate because they can't figure out what a catch is in the NFL? And two, this is (apparently) the same rule that is already in play at 3 other bases. Are you outraged over those?

Jeffrey has 127 targets this year. Marshall has 132. I don't have an exact breakdown by QB, but if I give the Detroit game entirely to Cutler, and the Washington game entirely to McCown, it comes out like this... Jeffrey from Cutler 68 Jeffrey from McCown 59 Marshall from Cutler 70 Marshall from McCown 62

He's going to be nitpicked to a level that he's never been nitpicked before. And that's saying something for Jay.

The rule should be amended to include white gloves for all base runners to avoid getting dirt under their fingernails. Why on earth would you be pro home plate collision?

Not really fair to just peg N&G for this...David is pretty aggressive about hating the Blackhawks/hockey as well.