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It may be speculation, but it isn't idle. There is no definitive way to know it, but that doesn't make it unworthy of exploring. Numbers are a good guide, not a be all and end all. If there's no definitive way of knowing, why bother exploring it? If there's no answer, there's no use for the question. What are you going to do? Have Bruce Miles ask Prior if he is afraid to pitch to Barrett? Please, it's a waste of time. You're not much on philosophy, are you? When you are using it as an arguement against a player without any proof that it is actually true I do have a bit of a problem with it. Have you ever heard one of the Cubs pitchers in the last two years say that they don't like to throw to Michael or that his defensive abilities sometimes worries them and decreases their effectiveness? I asked what if a pitching staff doesn't like to throw to a catcher even though he can hit. I'll change it to read that. Now, what would you do as a GM? I never said the Cub pitchers didn't like throwing to Barrett. If you are a gm, and you know for a fact that your pitchers hate throwing to your catcher, you replace him. If the catcher is so bad that the pitchers are complaining about him being behind the plate, then you either have the whiniest pitching staff ever, or you have a catcher who is complete garabge. If your catcher is that bad behind the plate, chances are his overall contribution is going to be less than league average.

It may be speculation, but it isn't idle. There is no definitive way to know it, but that doesn't make it unworthy of exploring. Numbers are a good guide, not a be all and end all. If there's no definitive way of knowing, why bother exploring it? If there's no answer, there's no use for the question. What are you going to do? Have Bruce Miles ask Prior if he is afraid to pitch to Barrett? Please, it's a waste of time. You're not much on philosophy, are you? When you are using it as an arguement against a player without any proof that it is actually true I do have a bit of a problem with it. Have you ever heard one of the Cubs pitchers in the last two years say that they don't like to throw to Michael or that his defensive abilities sometimes worries them and decreases their effectiveness? No, and I haven't heard any of the Cubs be quoted for attribution saying that patterson sucks, although I suspect a lot of them share that opinion. But you can tell Patterson sucks by looking at the numbers. You're complaining about Barrett by pulling stuff out of your ass. There's a huge difference.

What exactly does that have to do with whether or not the pitchers are afraid of pitching to Barrett again?

It may be speculation, but it isn't idle. There is no definitive way to know it, but that doesn't make it unworthy of exploring. Numbers are a good guide, not a be all and end all. If there's no definitive way of knowing, why bother exploring it? If there's no answer, there's no use for the question. What are you going to do? Have Bruce Miles ask Prior if he is afraid to pitch to Barrett? Please, it's a waste of time.

I think that's idle speculation. There's no way to know whether they think that or not, so why even bother? Why not just look at the numbers that we can? Barrett is a slightly below average defensive catcher, and an above average offensive catcher. The overall product is one of the top catchers in the game, whether the pitchers are afraid to throw to him or not.

Isnt his rate like 97/100? That's barely below average. I would argue that our team defense is bad because of the combo of Aramis/Nomar/Hollandsworth/Dubois that we've been running out there all year, not because of a slightly below average catcher.

I'd give up Williams+any prospect (maybe not Pie) for Quentin. It's going to take a lot more than just Williams to get a player like Quentin. Seriously, if the DBacks did that, just contract the team now.

This is ridiculous. Why are people that mention his less than stellar defense totally ignoring his offensive advantage? If you'd take an average bat/good D, why not take good bat/average D?

I figure now that fantasy basketball is opened up, I'll start a fantasy basketball league too. If anyone from here wants to join, let me know.

We would have to add in someone incredibly significant to get that deal done. Williams for Quentin straight up gets Hendry laughed off the phone.

Okie state

I was going to say that even Dusty couldnt keep those guys out of the line up, but Tony Clark's season would have bought him 3 or 4 more years in a Dusty line up.

Oh, I was actually going to say that, but then I figured that no one could be [expletive] enough to make fun of OU when they go to a school that barely fields a D1 team.

is about to or has been all season?

What was it? Sorry, OU sucking this year has really depressed me.

That really burns.

I'm going to assume it's like that at every major football school.

He has 55 RBI's because he's hit 8th so much. His Offense minus his Defense is still really, really good.

tack on another ER for Carp and the game is tied. He's given up more hits tonight I think than all year. Looks like were gonna start hearing the Dontrelle Willis train going on ESPN tonight and tomorrow. Too late.

I'm setting the over/under on the number of posts before oldcubsfan gets here at 10.5

AD=All Day. It was his nickname in high school, plus, we already had an AP.

It's AD, not AP, fool! And I highly, highly doubt he misses much time at all, one series, max.

He just can't figure out a way to beat me.

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand..... Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level. Quentin and Jackson are basically the same player. Same age, but Quentin plays OF while Jackson is a first baseman. Quentin also has more HR power, at least for now. As much as I love Quentin, Connor Jackson has the advantage in plate discipline/strike zone judgement (and Carlos Quentin's strike zone judgement is pretty good). I think the Diamondbacks prefer Connor to Carlos, so they definitely think his HR power will come. He did hit 38 doubles.

Maybe in the short term, but in the long-term, both Felix Pie and Ryan Harvey---IMO---will be better then Quentin. Conor Jackson on the other hand..... Quentin hit .300/.420/.550 in AAA, Neither Pie or Harvey have approached those numbers at any level. Quentin and Jackson are basically the same player. Same age, but Quentin plays OF while Jackson is a first baseman. Quentin also has more HR power, at least for now.