So plate discipline still means that he isn't swinging at pitches he can't hit well, right? If so, then my original question stands, why all the concern about Vitters plate discipline? A walk gets you on base 100% of the time, where contact is a hit 35% of time? (totally made up number). He might be able to hit a ball three feet out of the zone, but there's a reason that only a handful of guys have made a successful career out of doing that. Of course, if he can make solid contact on those pitches, then I'm all for it. He won't be able to pull an ichiro though, because he has no wheels.