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most of the posts after the game on this board, and most of the talk on tv, was about eli manning and not the giants' defense. you're being stupid. Because it's obvious how good the defense was. What kind of story is that? I guess if it bugs you that much, you could have spent the last few hours talking about that instead of complaining about how terrible Eli Manning is and how sad you are that the Giants won.

uh not really. i actually like the patriots, and i wouldn't mind hearing that talked about. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-01-28-computer-projection_N.htm if you play that game 10 times, the pats probably win 8. today was the giants' day, but they're not as good as the patriots. much like the 2006 cards were not as good as a lot of the teams that they played. as for eli manning not being good, i guess if you ignore stuff like statistics then i can see how he'd be a good quarterback. and besides, at least i am willing to make a prediction. i'm guessing you thought the patriots would win too, but since you didn't say it, people can't really call you on it. Incredible analysis. The Patriots are the better team? How thin is that limb? Of course I thought the Patriots would win, I'm sure if you wanted to dig through 20 weeks worth of NFL threads you'd probably find me predicting them to win the Super Bowl in a walk. There's a difference, of course, between predicting a Patriots win and acting like no one in the NFL stood a chance against them. And there's a difference between saying "Eli had a good game" and saying that Eli is an elite quarterback, or whatever you're arguing against. You're just acting like a baby.

Hey guys, the Giants held a historic offense to only 14 points in their Super Bowl win, only us hardcore, enlightened football fans will realize that they were the biggest key to the victory. Somebody call John Clayton and tell him that his services will no longer be needed.

embarrassing myself? i'm not the one calling it one of the best super bowl performances in history. i'm not the one creaming himself over 17 points when their defense held the most prolific offense of all-time to just 14 points. if you want to talk about a great game, let's talk about the giants' front four and secondary, not eli manning. there's a difference between "creaming yourself over 17 points" and giving a man some credit. You'd think that after you just spent the last two months acting like no one could even touch the Patriots that you'd be willing to say a little "well done" instead of acting like a baby. what are you talking about? i said that he played fine. he made a few risky throws that didn't end up costing him; he also made some good plays. i certainly knew that another team could score 17 points on the patriots; i didn't think that a defense could hold them to only 14. i guess i shouldn't expect everyone to understand this, since it's a baseball board, but a lot of the time there are parts of a team, aside from the quarterback, that are the key to winning the game. First off, you can cut it out with the "you must not understand football as well as I do" stuff. If you want to lay claim to NSBB's greatest complainer, that's another story. If the Patriots won, you'd spend the next couple weeks talking about how annoying it is that we have to hear about them all day. Instead, the Giants won and it's instantly "Eli isn't good, you guys are wrong", "oh god tell the dolphins to shut up" "blah, blah, blah". Though, I guess I'd be pissed if I spent the last two months proclaiming the Patriots as the greatest team in NFL history, only to see them get beat by a QB that "is not good". Let's hear some more expert commentary from you.

embarrassing myself? i'm not the one calling it one of the best super bowl performances in history. i'm not the one creaming himself over 17 points when their defense held the most prolific offense of all-time to just 14 points. if you want to talk about a great game, let's talk about the giants' front four and secondary, not eli manning. there's a difference between "creaming yourself over 17 points" and giving a man some credit. You'd think that after you just spent the last two months acting like no one could even touch the Patriots that you'd be willing to say a little "well done" instead of acting like a baby.

A quarterback, knocked for his entire career, caps off a great 6 week run with a win over one of the best teams in Super Bowl history in one of the better Super Bowls in the last decade, of course Truffle would spend the rest of his weekend complaining about it. That makes sense. Go do something fun, dude, you're embarrassing yourself.

WOW. Just..... Heh, that's actually a pretty cool commercial.

probably, which is too bad, because he's not good. He's not? 23 TDs to 20 INTs and a QB rating in the low 70s says he's not. Granted, his numbers aren't great, but having a team that led the league in drops doesn't help. and to be fair to manning, whom i don't like at all, he looked like a completely different qb in the last 5 or 6 games. We'll see if the transformation carries over to next year (for my sake, I hope not.)

but then we'll have stuck up pieces of garbage from new england, and the miami guys will be dead sooner.

he was trying to knock it out of bounds and instead pushed it forwards about 8 yards, they'll call that every time.

a lot of people just lost a lot of money because of that run

what happens in the pile stays in the pile

Not his fault. Yeah...I thought it was poorly thrown, but upon second look I was wrong. Still, if he hits him in the chest with the pass, it's, at the worst, not a pick.

Giants front four are doing really well

That was a quick first quarter.

agreed. jealousy of someone you will never, ever see or talk to just smells so, so bad.

That was a pretty sweet take on the Godfather.

In these superbowls between two teams that i dont give an s about, it usually takes me until kickoff to decide who im rooting for as much as i hate it, go giants! i really figured that I would root for the pats. I don't know.

What's with the 92.9 kbez adult contemporary? It makes me not want to finish this video. I feel like Delilah should be talking to some crying 20 year old with a husband in iraq.

I may have been unclear in my original sentiment. The point was more that, when the substantive statistics behind the two hitters in question aren't significantly different, advocating one because he fits the mold of a "traditional" leadoff hitter doesn't make sense. Using position in the order as a defining characteristic is what is arbitrary, not the difference between the two spots in the order. Right. Because Albert Pujols would be just as valuable batting leadoff as he is batting 3rd, right? the difference in how many times he gets on compared to how many times an average hitters gets on, coupled with his slg% advantage means that, yes.

the reds don't play the yankees this year. when NY opens up that new stadium, that poor guy will have no use to anyone. The Reds do play at NYY this year. FIRE UP THE ENRIQUE SIGNAL

is 1/8 ninja not true. ninjas are 1/8 marml

12 teams, standard 5x5, we'll do the draft on here to make sure no one gets those crappy autopicked teams. If you want in, pm me or post here or whatever. Some of the slots are already filled, so I can't promise you that you're in if you want to join.

guys i know for a fact that pitching in the ninth up 4-1 is much more difficult than coming in during a tie game in the seventh with the lead run in scoring position. ninth inning guys that always pitch with leads have more intensity than some puss that just comes in and gets a couple outs with the bases loaded in the seventh. edit wow, the weirdest thing just happened. i dont even remember posting this. I remember reading this thread and then a vision of meph appeared in my mind and said "do as I command" over and over. I guess I blacked out or something, because i just woke up and i was busy typing the equation for eqa over and over in wordpad.

the reds don't play the yankees this year. when NY opens up that new stadium, that poor guy will have no use to anyone.