Careful getting down from that cross. It doesn't sound like you're an unbiased source here. I can't dispute what you said, because it's all a person's opinion. You wouldn't expect Cubs fans to have an accurate opinion of White Sox fans would you? And, I'll usually be the last person to back up some of the tools at Cubs games.(See my rant titled the 4 people you meet at Cubs games.) The throwing all the balls on the field was stupid. Throwing trash on the field in the past was stupid. But this type of obnoxious tool behavior DOES happen everywhere. And at a pretty similar ratio. As CubinNY alluded to, you can't claim that us who rely on stats so heavily in baseball should be able to realize the ratio is greater, and then use your anecdotal evidence to prove it. It's flat out an opinion, and there's no way to prove it. Brennamen's biased, he's a Reds announcer and a senile old coot. We're biased, we're Cubs fans. You're biased, you're a Sox fan(I think) Oh well. First of all, is it that far fetched to think that I might be banned after my first post? I appreciate not getting banned (thanks) but it doesn't seem to take much to get the "troll" label and threatened with banning. you, for all intents and purposes, call cubs fans drunken idiots and you expect to be called a troll? i'd say that you are anticipating well. what my data says is that things are the same, lenny dykstra was getting beer dumped on him 20 years ago and he'd get doused tomorrow. in philly, mike schmidt was getting booed 25 years ago and he'd get booed tomorrow. in new york, alex rodriguez always gets booed. in addition to things being the same at wrigley, things remain the same at every other park. from battery night to disco demolition to the attack on tom gamboa, virtually every fan base has it's share of drunken idiots---and if they don't, the team leaves town due to lack of interest. anecdotal evidence, yes, but just as convincing. i believe you mean intensive purposes