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Washed up, done, AND finished.....dang. Somebody should have warned Carpenter. When he was 26 he had a 6.26 ERA in 175 innings. In 02 it was 5.28 in 73 innings, and he didnt pitch at all in 03. He was was probably just washed up and done though. Well, I would love to be wrong and hope I am. However reality hits home when you read reports of his shoulder being loose and surgery could be an option. One if not his last start was in Milwaukee and he looked like a college pitcher! I hope things change, but I have a feeling he will never regain his 03 form. I always thought having a loose arm is good for a pitcher.

Do you think they will look for a lefty shortstop, or a lefty CF and deal Jones? They like Izturis a lot so I don't see them trading him. The latter is more of a real possibility. Is it a real possibility to think the Cubs will look to deal Murton and Jones and also try to get a bigger bat in LF and just put the LH-bat of Pie in CF? although, as a few others have said, if the Cubs truly want an impact LH bat they could just sign Bonds. It's highly doubtful they'd trade BOTH Murton and Jones. They're not assuming Pie will be ready on Opening Day. They won't sign Bonds. This makes me cry. I'd love to see a Lee-Bonds-Ramirez middle of the order. That's just too bad. Why? The offensive production would be epic. It's because he prefers scrappy gamers and pitchers who suck in the regular season but might have a chance to win postseason games. I do?

Do you think they will look for a lefty shortstop, or a lefty CF and deal Jones? They like Izturis a lot so I don't see them trading him. The latter is more of a real possibility. Is it a real possibility to think the Cubs will look to deal Murton and Jones and also try to get a bigger bat in LF and just put the LH-bat of Pie in CF? although, as a few others have said, if the Cubs truly want an impact LH bat they could just sign Bonds. It's highly doubtful they'd trade BOTH Murton and Jones. They're not assuming Pie will be ready on Opening Day. They won't sign Bonds. This makes me cry. I'd love to see a Lee-Bonds-Ramirez middle of the order. That's just too bad.

No, not really. I think his arm will be fine since he hardly throws any breaking balls, and he kept the ball down last year. He strikes me as a good pitcher - not the kind of guy who falls apart when he loses a tick or two off his fastball. Well it should. A decrease in velocity and the decreasing length of a pitchers stride are two of the biggest keys to a shoulder injury. throwing less hard makes a pitcher hurt his shoulder? interesting. no. It's a symptom of shoulder injury. he threw over 200 innings last year. Shmidt is a fastball/change up pitcher. Although I don't like the abuse he's taken over the last several years those types of pitchers are very durable. BTW where does the "decrease in stride length and decrease in velocity" come from? I mean on what information is this observation based? Schmidt used to throw mid 90's. He was down to 88-90mph at the end of this season. Now, a variety of things can be the reasoning for this. Over worked is the main reasoning, however. Over worked usually means the pitcher becomes tired, and when the pitcher is tired his mechanics begin to take a nose dive. Which means he is more favorable for a arm injury(Kerry Wood). If a pitcher is losing length on his stride, it usually means his shoulder cannot keep up with the length the pitcher is taking. Schmdit is known for his absolutely insane length on his stride. Probably the longest in the game today. When he has to shorten that stride, it possibly means his shoulder cannot extend out to the point it used too. Don't pretend Wood had good mechanics up until he gets tired... The way he yanks his arm across the body is unnatural even when he's not fatigued. Throwing across his body is probably the main reasoning for his arm injuries.

No, not really. I think his arm will be fine since he hardly throws any breaking balls, and he kept the ball down last year. He strikes me as a good pitcher - not the kind of guy who falls apart when he loses a tick or two off his fastball. Well it should. A decrease in velocity and the decreasing length of a pitchers stride are two of the biggest keys to a shoulder injury. throwing less hard makes a pitcher hurt his shoulder? interesting. no. It's a symptom of shoulder injury. he threw over 200 innings last year. Shmidt is a fastball/change up pitcher. Although I don't like the abuse he's taken over the last several years those types of pitchers are very durable. BTW where does the "decrease in stride length and decrease in velocity" come from? I mean on what information is this observation based? Schmidt used to throw mid 90's. He was down to 88-90mph at the end of this season. Now, a variety of things can be the reasoning for this. Over worked is the main reasoning, however. Over worked usually means the pitcher becomes tired, and when the pitcher is tired his mechanics begin to take a nose dive. Which means he is more favorable for a arm injury(Kerry Wood). If a pitcher is losing length on his stride, it usually means his shoulder cannot keep up with the length the pitcher is taking. Schmdit is known for his absolutely insane length on his stride. Probably the longest in the game today. When he has to shorten that stride, it possibly means his shoulder cannot extend out to the point it used too.

No, not really. I think his arm will be fine since he hardly throws any breaking balls, and he kept the ball down last year. He strikes me as a good pitcher - not the kind of guy who falls apart when he loses a tick or two off his fastball. Well it should. A decrease in velocity and the decreasing length of a pitchers stride are two of the biggest keys to a shoulder injury. How many Schmidt starts did you see last season? The ones he made against the Cubs. Not to mention the video anyalsis I have on him from a pitching program.

No, not really. I think his arm will be fine since he hardly throws any breaking balls, and he kept the ball down last year. He strikes me as a good pitcher - not the kind of guy who falls apart when he loses a tick or two off his fastball. Well it should. A decrease in velocity and the decreasing length of a pitchers stride are two of the biggest keys to a shoulder injury. throwing less hard makes a pitcher hurt his shoulder? interesting. no. It's a symptom of shoulder injury. Maddux used to throw in the 90's. Haven't seen him come close in quite some time, yet I've never heard a thing about him having a shoulder injury. People lose velocity when they get older. When did Maddux throw in the 90's? You never hear him having a shoulder injury because his mechanics are top of the line.

No, not really. I think his arm will be fine since he hardly throws any breaking balls, and he kept the ball down last year. He strikes me as a good pitcher - not the kind of guy who falls apart when he loses a tick or two off his fastball. Well it should. A decrease in velocity and the decreasing length of a pitchers stride are two of the biggest keys to a shoulder injury.

Yes, but it needs to be done. 4/60 for Schmidt is insane. No, 5/55 for Darren Dreifort is insane. 4/60 for Schmidt is overpaying to get a good pitcher. Not when he is 34yrs old and breaking down. huh, I must have missed that breaking down during his 32 start, 213 inning, 125 ERA+, All-Star season. I need to pay more attention. Yeah, you should. The loss in velocity and the decreasing length of his stride don't bother you? Or the decrease in K's? Schmidt is still a better fit than Zito or any of the other FA pitchers. I understand that. Im just worried about his health. He has been taking a beating under Felipe. I would have a problem giving him anything longer than 2 years.

Yes, but it needs to be done. 4/60 for Schmidt is insane. No, 5/55 for Darren Dreifort is insane. 4/60 for Schmidt is overpaying to get a good pitcher. Not when he is 34yrs old and breaking down. huh, I must have missed that breaking down during his 32 start, 213 inning, 125 ERA+, All-Star season. I need to pay more attention. Yeah, you should. The loss in velocity and the decreasing length of his stride don't bother you? Or the decrease in K's?

Yes, but it needs to be done. 4/60 for Schmidt is insane. No, 5/55 for Darren Dreifort is insane. 4/60 for Schmidt is overpaying to get a good pitcher. Not when he is 34yrs old and breaking down.

Yes, but it needs to be done. 4/60 for Schmidt is insane.

Eyre+Jones for Burrell It would be interesting to see the Cubs with an all right-handed lineup in 07.

STILL? Steve Phillips was being talked to on SportsCenter about various baseball issues, one was "Report: Cubs offer Schmidt 3/$45" What worries me is I can't remember a time when Steve Phillips was right. In 05, Steve Phillips said the Astros and the Whitesox would be the two worst teams in the league. We all know how that ended up.

Does Tim Hudson's hip problem bother anyone other than me?

Tom Waddle said the Cubs offered Schmidt a 5/60 deal.

Kaplan is an unreliable source who has no history of ever being correct. He did break the Sammy Sosa trade.

Kaplan on WGN radio tonight said the Cubs DID NOT offer Schmidt any kind of contract. He has his sources. :lol:

You guys are quickly jumping to conclusions about Gil Meche. You see his numbers and you quickly don't want him. The thing you're not seeing is the potential he has to succeed. He has a very live arm, still pretty young, sharp breaking curveball, and a potential Jason Schmidt changeup in the mix. I see his potential for more of a reason to sign him rather than his numbers. He's had six years in the majors and will be 28 next year. When's this potential going to translate into results? And that's fine if you like him, but you have to understand why people are skeptical of your opinion. He's been a below-average pitcher for four consecutive seasons and is an injury risk, which makes many people apprehensive of giving him a multi-year contract in the neighborhood of $8-9M per year. Jason Schmidt struggled very much early in his career just like Meche has. Schmdit didn't hit his stride untill 2002. Before that, he was a average power pitcher with no changeup. When he developed his changeup in San Fran, he became a dominate pitcher. The same can be said for Meche. Meche has a developing changeup. Meche actually has an advantage over Schmdit. Meche has a better break on his curveball than Schmidt had when he was 28. Meche has the potential to be the next Jason Schmidt if he can develop his changeup.

You guys are quickly jumping to conclusions about Gil Meche. You see his numbers and you quickly don't want him. The thing you're not seeing is the potential he has to succeed. He has a very live arm, still pretty young, sharp breaking curveball, and a potential Jason Schmidt changeup in the mix. I see his potential for more of a reason to sign him rather than his numbers. Damnit, you're right. We should throw 30 million at Juan Cruz while we're at it. I was expecting you to post something. Actually, I even made a bet with a fellow nsbb member that you would post something like that. Would you really be happy without a smartass rival? I know I'd surely get bored. Mind you, I'm still waiting on the response as to whether you'd spend that kind of money on Juan Cruz. I dont have a problem with you. None of your post directed at me bother me. Would I pay $30 Million for a bullpen guy? Hell no. I know Cruz has been starting games for the D-Backs, and he doesnt impress me with his 6'2 155lb frame. Cruz has a better chance to succeed in the bullpen than he does in the rotation. If Juan Cruz were to be a FA seeking a bullpen job, then I don't see why he wouldn't have value for a team. If he were to be a FA this year I highly doubt he would be in the Gil Meche money range.

You guys are quickly jumping to conclusions about Gil Meche. You see his numbers and you quickly don't want him. The thing you're not seeing is the potential he has to succeed. He has a very live arm, still pretty young, sharp breaking curveball, and a potential Jason Schmidt changeup in the mix. I see his potential for more of a reason to sign him rather than his numbers. Damnit, you're right. We should throw 30 million at Juan Cruz while we're at it. I was expecting you to post something. Actually, I even made a bet with a fellow nsbb member that you would post something like that.

You guys are quickly jumping to conclusions about Gil Meche. You see his numbers and you quickly don't want him. The thing you're not seeing is the potential he has to succeed. He has a very live arm, still pretty young, sharp breaking curveball, and a potential Jason Schmidt changeup in the mix. I see his potential for more of a reason to sign him rather than his numbers.

But why is he in the big leagues still? The reason is because he plays great defense, calls a game pretty well, handles a pitching staff well, great tutor to the young players, and he throws out base runners better than most catchers in the league. His defense is why he is still in the big leagues.

Rule them out, period. A $25 million bid for an average LHP is insane. I would hope that Hendry is smarter than that.

Kennedy is pretty solid with the glove over at 2b. That is why Mike Scioscia wanted him back.